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Protecting Nephew from Russian Dating Scam
11-13-2007, 09:38 AM
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Protecting Nephew from Russian Dating Scam
Just got word from my sister that my 35-year-old, barely independent nephew is carrying on an Internet relationship with a Russian girl. By "barely independent" I mean that he has emotional issues, and lives in a halfway house.
Sister says that this is the most important thing in his life right now. She's supposedly awaiting a visa so she can visit him.
Is it a Russian dating scam? Yes, it's gotta be.
So, I've sent him links about these scams; we'll see what happens.
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11-13-2007, 10:06 AM
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Oh, boy, Al... Scam is really high on my radar with this situation. As soon as she asks him for money to secure the visa, or buy tickets, or whatever, that'll be a tip-off....
I hope you can help him, but he probably isn't gonna want any help...
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11-13-2007, 10:13 AM
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A friend of mine met a Russian woman on a dating site, went to visit her in Russia and brought her her back to the US for a visit and then married her. They've been married for 4 or 5 years now.
I think meeting them in person in their own country would be the ticket. Then go from there.
Doesn't sound like a good situation for someone in a halfway house.
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11-13-2007, 10:19 AM
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Russian Brides
Scams for money
or
Positioning of moles [agents]
Oh... I forgot... the cold war's over
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11-13-2007, 10:58 AM
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I met someone who got a "mail order" Russian wife. He lived on the border of Ontario and Minnesota, in a very remote area. She must have thought she had been shipped to Siberia.
I met them both a couple of years ago. At that time, they had been married about a year. She didn't speak English and he didn't speak Russian. Wonder how it worked out.
Hope your nephew doesn't get hurt. Can he get scammed out of money or does he even have access to money?
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11-13-2007, 11:03 AM
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Although he's on disability, he does have access to some trust fund money, so yes, there is the potential for him to lose money.
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11-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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Does he have a social worker who works with him? If so, his family could share their concerns with the social worker, or whoever is in charge at the halfway house.
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11-13-2007, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KB
A friend of mine met a Russian woman on a dating site, went to visit her in Russia and brought her her back to the US for a visit and then married her. They've been married for 4 or 5 years now.
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I've always wondered what happens to the marriage when the spouse qualifies for citizenship independent of the indenture marriage. IIRC that's about five years... or is it different since 9/11?
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11-13-2007, 12:11 PM
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not of money or emotion but mostly just by wasting my time, i've been burned so many times on internet dating just locals that i can imagine what goes on over wire overseas.
a somewhat wackier-than-me friend of mine tried hooking up with this supposed lady from namibia about a year ago. i told him from the start that he was more likely just cyberdating a 67 year old man from nigeria. his love affair lasted about 1/2 a year before he finally figured it out.
seems things unraveled when he tried to get her to come to the states so they could meet in person. what a shock, huh?
if anything i'd just, in whatever capacity you see fit, help your nephew to better handle his emotions and then hope that he is later able to handle interpersonal, face-to-face intimacy. a problem with online dating is not just that it is convenient for a scammer to hide behind a screen, but it can make it easy for us to hide from ourselves.
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11-13-2007, 02:36 PM
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There was a "Breaking News" on FOX about an hour ago regarding a woman that came from Lebanon about 20 years ago, set up a fraud marriage to a US Citizen, got her citizenship and worked for the FBI and CIA with a Security Clearance. She is pleading guilty to all of this including passing classified information illegally. Needless the CIA and FBI are looking at their policies a bit "after the fact".
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11-13-2007, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
Just got word from my sister that my 35-year-old, barely independent nephew is carrying on an Internet relationship with a Russian girl. By "barely independent" I mean that he has emotional issues, and lives in a halfway house.
Sister says that this is the most important thing in his life right now. She's supposedly awaiting a visa so she can visit him.
Is it a Russian dating scam? Yes, it's gotta be.
So, I've sent him links about these scams; we'll see what happens.
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Ask your nephew to run and run as fast as he can and never look back. This Russian woman only wants a green card to live in America. This scam is practiced by many women looking for gullible American men. She probably already has her Russian contacts here in the US.
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11-14-2007, 04:23 AM
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11-16-2007, 03:19 PM
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Email today from my sister:
Thanks! Turns out the Aaron found out it was a scam and luckily he didn't loose any $. Turns out he knew about the scams and was just hoping his "friend" was for real. She had not asked for any $. Well, sure enough... she said she was going to send a check... so he knew it was a scam. Thanks again.
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11-16-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
Well, sure enough... she said she was going to send a check... so he knew it was a scam. Thanks again.
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Whew, at least their e-mail exchange didn't result in a request for child support.
But I guess it's different with liberty ports.
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11-16-2007, 07:05 PM
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happily married
a guy that i worked with got a russian bride. happy married but it wasn't cheap.
i think it's nothing wrong with it. he told me his former american wife was spoiled, and demanding... his new wife meanwhile, hardworking and thankful.
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11-16-2007, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enuff2Eat
i think it's nothing wrong with it. he told me his former american wife was spoiled, and demanding... his new wife meanwhile, hardworking and thankful.
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Is it better to ask for an ugly one?
Ha
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11-17-2007, 05:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
Is it better to ask for an ugly one?
Ha
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11-17-2007, 06:08 AM
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Want a Russian wife? Check out the gogo bars in the northeast part of NJ and in Brooklyn NY. No need to look at Emails. Tall blond and.....
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11-17-2007, 09:22 AM
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...built.
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