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I think that is a logistical impossibility considering the commitments we have undertaken in Iraq and Afghan, considering the current size/status of the Merkin military.
Nuke 'em Danno.

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Re: Q on military history: mutiny/insubordination
Old 10-03-2006, 08:36 AM   #22
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My point exactly. The military knows it's a bad idea, but I'm not sure that would deter W & Co.... Hasn't yet...
The nut house known as the Oval Office has finally figured out that the moment they do something to Iran, the Iranians will close the straits of Hormuz, shut off all of their own taps, and wreck the world economy overnight. I'm not terribly worried taht we will attack Iran.
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the Iranians will close the straits of Hormuz, shut off all of their own taps, and wreck the world economy overnight.
Not if there are no Iranians.

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Not if there are no Iranians.

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I think that is a logistical impossibility considering the commitments we have undertaken in Iraq and Afghan, considering the current size/status of the Merkin military.
If the goal is simply to stop their nuke program, the Air Force should be able
to handle it quite nicely I'm sure.

But you bring up a good point - one of the most irresponsible things about the
Iraq invasion is that if, in the future, we DO have a legitimate reason for a
major military intervention (by ground), we don't have the troops to do so,
and aren't likely to recruit them, given the administration's lack of honor in
dealing with those in the military (extending tours, VA cuts, "re-interpeting"
Geneva Conventions, which of course can come back to haunt American
soldiers too, a thing which people like John McCain and John Kerry understand,
but someone like George W Bush never would).

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If the goal is simply to stop their nuke program, the Air Force should be able to handle it quite nicely I'm sure.
Yeah-- the Israeli Air Force...
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Yeah-- the Israeli Air Force...
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Yeah-- the Israeli Air Force...
Which doesn't so much as fart in the direction of any Arab state without a call to Washington for the OK.
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Which doesn't so much as fart in the direction of any Arab state without a call to Washington for the OK.
So, why did the Arab world stay silent when Hezbollah and Israel were going at it? Were they "watching and learning". or when it's Arab against Arab it's ok??

There has been "jihaad" against Israel since they became a country...........other coutnries would like nothing more than for Israel to cease to exist.........as documented by history............
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Which doesn't so much as fart in the direction of any Arab state without a call to Washington for the OK.
I'm not so sure they bothered to do so the last time they took out a nuke plant.

I'm not so sure they'll bother to do it the next time, either.
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Iran having a nuke is a concern of their neighbors too. The Shia and Sunni are setting themselves up for a nasty religious war, just like the Christians did a couple centuries ago. There is no limit on the use of resources when you are defending your view of faith. While fighting between them Iran (or their agents) would also fling a rocket or two at Israel just to make things interesting (and blame them for the fight).

Would they knock out each other's oil centers, you bet. Who gains? Ven and Russia.

That is why we need energy independence.
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That is why we need energy independence.
If the Middle East didn't have huge oil reserves, who would give them a 2nd thought? Not any developed country............
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If the Middle East didn't have huge oil reserves, who would give them a 2nd thought? Not any developed country............
We would, once we run out of sand.
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We would, once we run out of sand.
Monterey (Sand City), CA prides itself on having exported sand to Saudi Arabia for swimming pool filters.
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Ya, how are we going to replace our beaches after our big hurricanes.
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