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Old 01-25-2008, 11:01 AM   #1
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Rambo IV

He's back! Bloodier, with the highest body count ever. Haven't seen it and wouldn't go out my way to, except a friend of mine has a part in it (actually - thought the original film wasn't half bad). He happens to be a very talented bluesman and wrote and performs a couple of songs for the film apparently. Here's his website if you're interested. It has some trailers and you can hear some of his music if you are into delta blues.

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Old 01-25-2008, 11:04 AM   #2
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Fitting title to his movie. Maybe that IV is for the old mans saline drip.
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Sly was pretty good in the last Rocky movie.
If you think about it; he and his movies have gotten slammed many times, but he has survived for quite some time.
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It's hard to imagine how he could top his cinematic performances in the first three Rambo movies... and in the 462 Rocky movies...
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yo - "live for nothin' or die for somethin'". come on now... you gotta love it right?
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:57 PM   #6
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yo - "live for nothin' or die for somethin'". come on now... you gotta love it right?
Speaking as a submariner, trapped underwater for 90 days with Stallone films many times, I'm afraid that I'm required to go see this movie...

Gosh, I hope the theater has a sound system that can handle the explosions.
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A 60 year old Rambo, who'da thunk it!
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A 60 year old Rambo, who'da thunk it!
Human growth harmones help.
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Hey, maybe there's hope for me. I'm only 58, I'll get some of those harmones and join the Marines. Not!
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Those harmones will put you in harms way...
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Stallone has now endorsed McCain, and Huckabee has made a big deal out of campaigning with Chuck Norris.

Does this tell you anything about democracy in this country?
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I was shocked at how good the last Rocky movie was. Stallone has made a lot of really bad stuff, but the first Rocky and the first Rambo were very thoughtful movies. If he can pull off the same turnaround in this Rambo as he did with Rocky Balboa it will be fantastic.
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I guess that I didnt know that there was a 3rd Rambo...
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Job security after the next election?
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"First Blood" (1982)
Total Body Count: 1
Kill Count Per Minute: 0.01
Torture Scenes: 2
Time of First Death In Film: 29min 31sec
Good Guys Killed: 0
Bad Guys Killed By Rambo: 0
Bad Guys Killed By Supporting Characters: 0

"Rambo: First Blood Part II" (1985)
Total Body Count: 69
Kill Count Per Minute: 0.72
Torture Scenes: 5
Time of First Death In Film: 33min 34sec
Good Guys Killed: 1
Bad Guys Killed By Rambo: 58
Bad Guys Killed By Supporting Characters: 10

"Rambo III" (1988 )
Total Body Count: 132
Kill Count Per Minute: 1.3
Torture Scenes: 7
Time of First Death In Film: 41min 9sec
Good Guys Killed: 37
Bad Guys Killed By Rambo: 78
Bad Guys Killed By Supporting Characters: 17

"Rambo" (2008 )
Total Body Count: 236
Kill Count Per Minute: 2.59
Torture Scenes: 3
Time of First Death In Film: 3min 22sec
Good Guys Killed: 113
Bad Guys Killed By Rambo: 83
Bad Guys Killed By Supporting Characters: 40
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ladelfina,
I think for the current Rambo you have to take into account that he has help. He is getting old of course.
So the Rambo justified killings might actually be lower.

I heard that Sly picked Burma to highlight the civil war going on that is not getting reported. Also, the Rambo philosophy is that peace is the unusual state as it difficult to obtain and takes years to put into effect but war can be started easily.
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Rambutt IV

I can just see him, hunting the wicked and the mean, with knife, torn shirt, dripping sweat, through the corridors of the nursing home ... stalking nurses aides ... terrorizing janitorial staff ... setting booby traps and IED's in day rooms and the physical therapy rehab unit ... until, late at night (almost to 9:00 PM), when the staff manages to get him into the tub with a hydraulic lift, and then into the geriatric unit's bed.

Sigh!
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"Outsourcing"?

I was keeping up with the body count in Rambo III until the army swarmed into view. They must've had intel analysts doing frame-by-frame reviews or cheated with a copy of the script.
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"Outsourcing"?
yes! ding ding ding!

FWIW I am not 'pro-' or 'anti-'Rambo. I saw the first one and it was ok. I didn't feel the need to see any sequels or prequels.. but that can be said for basically all the other movie franchises for me, personally (Batman, Star Wars, etc.). I think I was just about the last person on the planet to find out or even care who Luke's father was.

I just thought it was an interesting metric of the amount of violence a movie seemingly "has" to have.. Rambo a good example because of the relatively consistent (one assumes) context and same star/protagonist. You could probably do similar studies over time on Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" or the Charles Bronson/"Death Wish" character.. (except Eastwood as a lefty might have veered off of the kill ratio). Seagal, Norris.. I'd imagine most of 'em get deadlier to the point of ridiculousness if they didn't start out already ridiculous..

I really do like good action movies.. but the more sorta-realistic the better. I really loved The French Connection and also Ronin. They have to have a bit of rational motivation for me, and some substance. I adore that Jean Reno.. fantastic also in La Femme Nikita and The Professional. Overcome your fear of subtitles and enjoy...

ScooterGuy.. what a riot! thanks...
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that Jean Reno.. fantastic also in La Femme Nikita and The Professional. Overcome your fear of subtitles and enjoy......
Also a big Reno fan - funny story regarding subtitles - we were on a bus in Mexico heading for Belize - bus had an on-board movie going, a strange and hard to follow 2000 Reno film called "the Crimson Rivers". The movie was playing in French, which i know a few words of, with spanish subtitles. I'd have been hard pressed to follow the film in english with the volume turned up and tivo to replay the confusing bits - it was real fun trying to make sense of the film with the few words i saw, heard, and understood!
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