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Old 08-03-2007, 12:12 PM   #1
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What's this obsession with FAX? Why can we email the images instead!
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:39 PM   #2
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Fax by phone? (not thru internet)
It is simpler for a couple of pages of docs.
By the time I get the scanner and sw up, scanned and pdf'ed the file and hope the email attaches. I could have fed the fax machine and checked CNBC and had a cup of java.

Er, it also prevents idiots from sending me 25MB of idiotic graphics to tell me something I don't want to know.
But that is a new rant.
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:46 PM   #3
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For me it's a frustation on both sending and receiving. The longest documents I have done so far is only a few pages.

My kids have to send one page to the universities, and the universities insisted that the page be faxed!
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Let's see....

You have a hard copy of the 'original'... no photoshop (yea, I know you can do it...)

No chance of being stolen as it goes across the web...

You get the same 'thing' all the time, a piece of paper with the info on it.. (no tiff or jpeg or whatever other kind of file people send stuff to you)..
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efax!

You can print right from your computer to efax. Maybe not worth the money to you, but my LLC believes in taking very good care of all of it's employees (me).
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:31 PM   #6
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To send, I use a scanner, and you can fax as a printer within Windows (maybe I'm stating the obvious?)

Receiving is a pain.... you can get a free eFax account if you receive less than 20 pages per month; otherwise I think it's way overpriced.
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Eh - you gotta FAX problem? Wait till you buy Vista Home Premium on your new machine and then find out that you needed to buy Business or Ultimate just so you could FAX like on every other preceding Windows version. Remember Win 98 that had identifiable Fax ringtones? Then they dropped those? Gee progress is fun! Your cheapest out seems to be to buy the $30 "Snappyfax" program for Vista if you really want a Fax. We did.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:38 PM   #8
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To send, I use a scanner, and you can fax as a printer within Windows (maybe I'm stating the obvious?)
May be not the obvious. I am not aware of this feature. Are you saying that I can enter a fax number and have Windows send it for me? I don't have a fax machine (got rid of it a long time ago).

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Old 08-03-2007, 01:44 PM   #9
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I still use an HP LaserJet II printer because the print quality is so much better than digital. Printing digital documents from e-mail to my Laser printer is a huge hassle, very slow and pages stop, error messages, etc. I always request faxed documents. Or better yet, use an overnight service like Fed Ex if the document is long. My boss refuses to buy a scanner and I'm really with him on that one.
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May be not the obvious. I am not aware of this feature. Are you saying that I can enter a fax number and have Windows send it for me? I don't have a fax machine (got rid of it a long time ago).

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Glad to!
As someone mentioned though, it looks like if your OS is Vista, they've taken a step backwards. I'm staying on XP as long as I can.
If you go from your Start menu to Printers and Faxes, you can add a fax there. It becomes a printer driver. You take your scanned document, saved in whatever format suits you (word doc is fine) and print it. Under printer choices, once you have Fax installed, you can choose this and it'll ask if you want a cover page and what # to send it to.

I hope this is clear... let me know if I can help more.
Also, if you do a Windows Help search on Fax, it'll give you instructions.
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I still use an HP LaserJet II printer because the print quality is so much better than digital. Printing digital documents from e-mail to my Laser printer is a huge hassle, very slow and pages stop, error messages, etc.
I'm a former HP LaserJet engineer.

There are a couple of things you could try with your HP LJ II to get it to print better. (The II is before my time, but I've worked with it's great-grandchildren and other descendants.)

1. Buy a memory upgrade, if there's one available for that printer anymore.
2. Select the lowest print quality in your driver. For text, 600dpi should be sufficient. (Egads, the II might be old enough so it might only be 300dpi!)
3. Buy a newer printer. IMHO, the most recent HP printers, especially on the low end, aren't the quality that the older printers used to be, particularly with the plastic parts. But the 4000/4100/4200/4300 series printers are all really good; I like the latter two the best, but you can probably get a used 4100 for pretty cheap somewhere, and it should last you a long time and be a better, faster version of the II.

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May be not the obvious. I am not aware of this feature. Are you saying that I can enter a fax number and have Windows send it for me? I don't have a fax machine (got rid of it a long time ago).

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Even easier, google "I want to free fax" and try one of the websites for trial period. Sometimes the windoze fax requires files you may not have in your OS. I am lazy so I used faxzero for a small fee. You can buy a fax/copy machine for $15 also. I used mine until the ink ran out and donated the darn thing to the landfill.
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You can buy a fax/copy machine for $15 also. I used mine until the ink ran out and donated the darn thing to the landfill.
Where do you find a $15 fax/copy machine? I would do the same thing if I can get my hand on one.
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I'm a former HP LaserJet engineer.

There are a couple of things you could try with your HP LJ II to get it to print better. (The II is before my time, but I've worked with it's great-grandchildren and other descendants.)

1. Buy a memory upgrade, if there's one available for that printer anymore.
2. Select the lowest print quality in your driver. For text, 600dpi should be sufficient. (Egads, the II might be old enough so it might only be 300dpi!)
3. Buy a newer printer. IMHO, the most recent HP printers, especially on the low end, aren't the quality that the older printers used to be, particularly with the plastic parts. But the 4000/4100/4200/4300 series printers are all really good; I like the latter two the best, but you can probably get a used 4100 for pretty cheap somewhere, and it should last you a long time and be a better, faster version of the II.

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Thanks so much, I'll keep this info. on file; we talk about buying a new one every few months.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:29 PM   #15
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Where do you find a $15 fax/copy machine? I would do the same thing if I can get my hand on one.
Be in line early at Fry's.
Send in rebate for $20.
The scam is ink cartridge cost $45.
I will not use it enough to justify before drying ink clots it. HP is good at this game. All the profit is in the ink.
I got a scanner for free (just paid tax) after rebate and it works. It is not that hard if you live in a large city.
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Oh, ok. Standing in line and sending in rebate are not my preferred activities ;-)
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By the way Sam, to have Windows send a fax you need a modem in the computer and to have the modem plug on the computer connected to a phone line. And if you're using dialup you cant be connected to the internet at the same time as your fax send/receive.

You might solve the printer and fax problems with a new Laser all-in-one printer/copier/fax. They go on sale for about $100 from time to time. I just picked up a Canon for $99 last month.
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Where do you find a $15 fax/copy machine? I would do the same thing if I can get my hand on one.

Check out Craigslist - you are likely to find a FAX / printer for almost nothing.
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What's a fax? :confused:
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What's this obsession with FAX? Why can we email the images instead!
OK, here's a wild attempt to tackle the original question. I may be way off, but - -

If a university requires some application materials to be faxed to them, then afterwards you have PROOF that they received them, from the FAX machine, that you can provide if they claim you didn't send the stuff in time. It's a handshake sort of thing.

With an e-mail, all you can prove is that you sent it - - you really don't know if they ever received it unless they choose to respond and confirm that fact.
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