Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
recovering a lost partition
Old 06-30-2008, 08:43 AM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
simple girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,505
recovering a lost partition

Hi all,
I'm posting this for DH.

He had some major computer problems (work computer) over the weekend. It crashed, so he tried to recover his information by reinstalling Microsoft XP; his data was on a D partition, and he has been able to recover his data this way before.

Unfortunately, this time all the other drives are showing up as unformatted. He has lost 10 years of work

Ok all you computer gurus who know how to recover hidden data...any way he can find his data
__________________

__________________
simple girl
less stuff, more time

(49, married; DH 53. I am fully retired as of 2015 (well ok, I still work part-time but only because I love the job and have complete freedom to call off if I want to travel with hubby for work), DH hopes to fully retire 2018 when he turns 55 to access 401K penalty-free...although he may decide to do part-time consulting)
simple girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 06-30-2008, 09:36 AM   #2
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,697
havent done that in a while...

try this, or something like it

EASEUS Data Recovery Wizard Professional 4.3.6 - Free Download EASEUS Data Recovery Wizard Professional by YIWO Tech Ltd

then get an external hard drive with a backup program.
__________________

__________________
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2008, 11:44 AM   #3
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 18,281
Thanks for reminding me that it's time for me to do another backup.

10 years!!!!!!!

Geez, not only back it up, but make multiple backups, get one off-site (at least the data).

-ERD50
__________________
ERD50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2008, 08:35 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Yikes! I would start with Disk Recovery Software and Hard Drive Recovery tool for Windows and hope for the best.

In any event, if you can't solve the problem quickly (read "by yourself") stop immediately before you make it worse.

Good luck.
__________________
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2008, 08:39 PM   #5
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by simple girl View Post
Unfortunately, this time all the other drives are showing up as unformatted. He has lost 10 years of work
Oh, yeah. I forgot to point out that a Partition is NOT another Drive. It is merely a Folder with a Drive name. If something bad happens to a Drive, everything on that drive is affected equally -- and that includes a foolish mental device like a Partition.
__________________
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2008, 08:47 PM   #6
Moderator
Walt34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern WV Panhandle
Posts: 16,539
DO NOT install anything on that drive!

If you do, you risk overwriting the data you want to recover.

What happens is that the data is still there, but the system "thinks" it is blank space and may overwrite the data while installing the very software that is supposed to save it. Therefore the only thing you should do with that disk is make a copy of it, then work from the copy only.There is software that can write everything on the disk to a file and then you can make as many copies of the drive as you want. Norton's Ghost is one such example, there are many of them.

Knowing how to recover a partition manually gets pretty deep into data structures and it may be worth your while to pay someone for what they know. Be prepared for $250/hour and up and a minimum of a couple of hours.

Backup drives are a lot cheaper....

If you like I can refer you to some people who do that kind of thing professionally (I used to, but I'm rusty).
__________________
I heard the call to do nothing. So I answered it.
Walt34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2008, 08:51 PM   #7
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 18,281
Too late for this, but...

I'm not so sure that re-installing XP was a good move. If the drive is messed up, I think that the last thing you want to do is anymore *writing* to the drive. You could overwrite something that maybe could have been recovered. As RonBoyd mentioned, partitions are not physical boundaries, so when you go to write or install on a problem drive, it may no longer recognize the boundary, and write over the stuff you want to save.

My first step would be to try to mount that drive on another computer, and just try to read partition D - then go to the recovery programs.

-ERD50

dang no 'new post was posted feature' - what Walt said
__________________
ERD50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2008, 07:20 AM   #8
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
simple girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,505
DH says he got in trouble by trying to use GHOST; it crashed when he was doing this (he had ordered a new computer and was trying to back up the whole computer). He now realizes he shouldn't have installed XP and has ordered an external hard drive to go with his new computer. I think he has learned a hard lesson.

He spoke with the tech support for his company. They will be taking the computer and trying to recover any lost data. They have specialists who do recovery work, and they said if they can't get it, well, it's pretty much lost forever Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk, I suppose.

Thanks everyone for your advice. Hopefully this helps someone else remember to back up files externally to the computer!
__________________
simple girl
less stuff, more time

(49, married; DH 53. I am fully retired as of 2015 (well ok, I still work part-time but only because I love the job and have complete freedom to call off if I want to travel with hubby for work), DH hopes to fully retire 2018 when he turns 55 to access 401K penalty-free...although he may decide to do part-time consulting)
simple girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2008, 09:39 AM   #9
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
TromboneAl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11,198
If the data's that important, perhaps you should mail the drive to a data recovery company.
__________________
Al
TromboneAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 07:31 AM   #10
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
simple girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by TromboneAl View Post
If the data's that important, perhaps you should mail the drive to a data recovery company.

Thanks T-Al. That's essentially what he is doing. His company (big mega-corp) has a data recovery firm they use. They won't charge anything unless they recover data (if they do, the charge is something like $600). DH doesn't really have much hope though that they'll be successful
__________________
simple girl
less stuff, more time

(49, married; DH 53. I am fully retired as of 2015 (well ok, I still work part-time but only because I love the job and have complete freedom to call off if I want to travel with hubby for work), DH hopes to fully retire 2018 when he turns 55 to access 401K penalty-free...although he may decide to do part-time consulting)
simple girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 08:01 AM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
TromboneAl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11,198
Let us know what happens.
__________________
Al
TromboneAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 07:23 PM   #12
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
simple girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,505
Update:

DH received 2 CD's of data back from the company this week.

He got everything back from under My Documents, but he lost his email files. As he thought he would get nothing, he is quite happy with this result.

We now have an external hard drive with an incredible amount of memory. Lesson learned.
__________________
simple girl
less stuff, more time

(49, married; DH 53. I am fully retired as of 2015 (well ok, I still work part-time but only because I love the job and have complete freedom to call off if I want to travel with hubby for work), DH hopes to fully retire 2018 when he turns 55 to access 401K penalty-free...although he may decide to do part-time consulting)
simple girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 07:58 PM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by simple girl View Post
Update:

We now have an external hard drive with an incredible amount of memory. Lesson learned.
I hope that means an incredible amount of memory (actually the term is storage) used solely for backup purposes. If not, then you should consider a "backup to the backup" system... perhaps DVDs or flash drives. Always remember the Cardinal Proverb: "Blessed are the Pessimists for they make backups."
__________________
"It's tough to make predictions, especially when it involves the future." ~Attributed to many
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." ~(perhaps by) Yogi Berra
"Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge."~ Lau tzu
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 09:20 PM   #14
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
harley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Following the nice weather
Posts: 6,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by simple girl View Post
Update:

DH received 2 CD's of data back from the company this week.

He got everything back from under My Documents, but he lost his email files. As he thought he would get nothing, he is quite happy with this result.

We now have an external hard drive with an incredible amount of memory. Lesson learned.
Assuming the emails were sent through company servers, you may be able to get the company email techs to restore them to your DHs computer. As many ex-executives have discovered, email is forever.
__________________
"Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." - Will Rogers, or maybe Sam Clemens
DW and I - FIREd at 50 (7/06), living off assets
harley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #15
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Leonidas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright
Posts: 2,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonBoyd View Post
I hope that means an incredible amount of memory (actually the term is storage) used solely for backup purposes. If not, then you should consider a "backup to the backup" system... perhaps DVDs or flash drives. Always remember the Cardinal Proverb: "Blessed are the Pessimists for they make backups."
I guess I'm a ultra-pessimist then!

Everything gets backed up every night to an external drive. About once a month I manually backup the irreplaceable stuff to a different external drive. Then twice a year I backup the irreplaceable stuff to a third or fourth external hard drive and that goes into one or the other safe deposit box. USB hard drives are so cheap it's not much of a financial issue and I sleep much better.
__________________
There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is having lots to do and not doing it. - Andrew Jackson
Leonidas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2008, 05:33 AM   #16
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
I guess I'm a ultra-pessimist then!
Yeah. That's two of us. However, in addition to all that, I try to keep hard copies of the really important in several different places. I send hard copies of my genealogical research, for example, to every known relative -- at least one of them will save it for the future... I hope. <chuckle> Personal and financial records are treated the same way... although much fewer relatives are involved.

My tens of thousands photographic images present a special situation. I have numerous hard drives and hundreds of CD/DVDs filled with copies -- I find that relatives lack great interest in saving such stuff for me. In fact, I start worrying the instant I press the button on the camera that something bad will happen. I have, for instance, a couple portable hard drives that I carry around solely to transfer the images to (with my laptop) as soon as I can.
__________________
"It's tough to make predictions, especially when it involves the future." ~Attributed to many
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." ~(perhaps by) Yogi Berra
"Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge."~ Lau tzu
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2008, 06:07 AM   #17
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
OAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central, Ohio, USA
Posts: 2,598
Have you considered an On-Line backup system. There are a couple very good ones out there and the process is almost seamless if you have a high speed internet connection. Cost is pretty low (maybe $10-15 a month). I do not know what it cost to get the restoration done but they usually are not cheap and, like you learned, you do not get it all back.
__________________
Vietnam Veteran, CW4 USA, Retired 1979
OAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2008, 09:04 AM   #18
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Leonidas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright
Posts: 2,847
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonBoyd View Post
Yeah. That's two of us. However, in addition to all that, I try to keep hard copies of the really important in several different places. I send hard copies of my genealogical research, for example, to every known relative -- at least one of them will save it for the future... I hope. <chuckle> Personal and financial records are treated the same way... although much fewer relatives are involved.
Yeah, I might send some of my relatives the genealogical stuff and photographs, but I'm hard pressed to think of more than a couple that would get backups of my financial stuff. Nobody's getting the unencrypted version
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonBoyd View Post
My tens of thousands photographic images present a special situation... I have, for instance, a couple portable hard drives that I carry around solely to transfer the images to (with my laptop) as soon as I can.
I haven't done that yet, but I have considered it. The compact little EEEPC and the tiny hard drives they are making now make it not such a burden to do carry something like that around on trips.
__________________
There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is having lots to do and not doing it. - Andrew Jackson
Leonidas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2008, 09:22 AM   #19
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
RonBoyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 5,280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
but I'm hard pressed to think of more than a couple that would get backups of my financial stuff.
Yeah, confined to children but now that I think on it my brother would be another candidate.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
I haven't done that yet, but I have considered it. The compact little EEEPC and the tiny hard drives they are making now make it not such a burden to do carry something like that around on trips.
I "built" my own using, for example, Krex's Hard Drive Kit with Notebook IDE or SATA drive. I figure that if they are sturdy enough for a notebook, they are sturdy enough for portable use. (BTW, assembly is not much more than Plug & Play.)
__________________
"It's tough to make predictions, especially when it involves the future." ~Attributed to many
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." ~(perhaps by) Yogi Berra
"Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge."~ Lau tzu
RonBoyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2008, 09:34 AM   #20
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,697
BTW, high capacity external redundant disk arrays are becoming reasonably cheap. I dont think I'd use them for mission critical 24x7 storage but for an external backup drive with built in redundancy, they might fit the bill.

This for example comes with two 500gb hard drives preconfigured for disk mirroring, or you can have it span the drives and produce a full TB. In mirroring, if one drive fails you'll get a warning light, can swap the bad drive out, and it'll rebuild the mirror pair.

I wouldnt recommend using it for the spanned 1TB mode. In that case if either drive fails you lose all your data.

But for a turnkey mirrored backup disk for a couple of hundred bucks? Not bad.

No reason why you cant swap out the 500gb drives in it for a pair of 1tb drives to double your storage a few years from now.

Newegg.com - Cavalry CADA-U32 CADA001U32A 1TB USB 2.0 2-bay RAID Disk Array for PC - External Hard Drives

They also have a larger model that sports 4 drives under RAID 5. So you get most of the 2TB of storage and immunity from single drive failures

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822101084
__________________

__________________
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
lost regretful retiree Hi, I am... 1 03-21-2008 03:37 PM
just lost my job rw86347 FIRE and Money 14 07-13-2006 11:18 PM
Lost or dropped? cute fuzzy bunny Other topics 23 04-01-2006 01:22 PM
Lost Pet REWahoo Other topics 5 01-13-2006 09:27 AM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:15 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.