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Old 09-22-2010, 12:11 AM   #1
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Remembering Viet Nam

"Ah, for I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."

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Captured: A Look Back at the Vietnam War on the 35th Anniversary of the Fall of Saigon – Plog Photo Blog
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:49 AM   #2
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Riveting - thanks for posting!
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:07 PM   #4
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Recongnition, for action taken 42 years ago:

Vietnam Medal of Honor - mcall.com
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I know this is a delicate question: In military terms: Would you have won the war hadnīt the media and politics intervened?
Let it be known my profound respect for all those who fought that terrible war.
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Would you have won the war.
There are no "winners" in war. Just assumptions on what could have been.

There are those that look at "good wars" (e.g. WWII) as war of necessity.

Then there are those called upon by their country (like me) to serve in a "conflict" in which they only see as needless loss of life (as I did, once I arrived in SEA).

I guess you can see (via my other postings) where I stand.
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Much like in Iraq, and more so in Afghanistan, how does one define "win"?
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I know this is a delicate question: In military terms: Would you have won the war hadnīt the media and politics intervened?
Which war with which countries are you referring to? Vietnam, or the debacles that would have ensued when the Soviet Union & PRC jumped in to support their socialist brethren from the insidious effects of the deadly democracy domino effect?

"Intervention" may be a misnomer. Warfare has always been an inseparable part of politics, and I think modern warfare is also inseparable from media. Wars are certainly not won by ignoring those factors.
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What a tough war.
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There are those that look at "good wars" (e.g. WWII) as war of necessity.

Then there are those called upon by their country (like me) to serve in a "conflict" in which they only see as needless loss of life (as I did, once I arrived in SEA).
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When I looked at pic #124, my thoughts immediately went to the concurrent thread involving disconnecting from family........
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Which war with which countries are you referring to? Vietnam, or the debacles that would have ensued when the Soviet Union & PRC jumped in to support their socialist brethren from the insidious effects of the deadly democracy domino effect?

"Intervention" may be a misnomer. Warfare has always been an inseparable part of politics, and I think modern warfare is also inseparable from media. Wars are certainly not won by ignoring those factors.
Nords, I was referring to Nam. Here in Spain itīs commonly beleieved that the media (mainly TV), politics and part of your public opinion ended up demoralizing the US forces there.
And I agree that NOWADAYS your second paragraph express an absolute truth.
I insist I donīt mean to offend anybody by this comment.
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Other than being shot at, which can be quite exhilarating, I remember Viet Nam as a beautiful country with wonderful people. I wish them nothing but the best and apologize for the US being so stupid for getting involved in such a silly war.
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Nords, I was referring to Nam. Here in Spain itīs commonly beleieved that the media (mainly TV), politics and part of your public opinion ended up demoralizing the US forces there.
And I agree that NOWADAYS your second paragraph express an absolute truth.
I insist I donīt mean to offend anybody by this comment.
Public opinion demoralized the politicians responsible for the war.

It was after returning from the war that the troops were demoralized...
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So far I find many of the post in this thread just as repugnant as I did during the Viet Nam war!
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Which war with which countries are you referring to? Vietnam, or the debacles that would have ensued when the Soviet Union & PRC jumped in to support their socialist brethren from the insidious effects of the deadly democracy domino effect?

"Intervention" may be a misnomer. Warfare has always been an inseparable part of politics, and I think modern warfare is also inseparable from media. Wars are certainly not won by ignoring those factors.
Didn't we get sucked in by trying to help France yet again?
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So far I find many of the post in this thread just as repugnant as I did during the Viet Nam war!
Ambiguous goals, draftees, and lots of, shall we say, biased tv coverage do not a popular war make...

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Didn't we get sucked in by trying to help France yet again?
Though if it weren't for France, we'd likely still be part of Great Britain.
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So far I find many of the post in this thread just as repugnant as I did during the Viet Nam war!
Iīm not sure I understand what you mean.
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I can't forget Vietnam. I WAS THERE. Born and lived there the first 14 years of my life. Escaped by boat in 1975 when Saigon fell.

War is ugly and painful.
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Feelings continue to run strong decades after participation, different people respond to their experiences in their own ways. Amazing to me that it was so long ago - WW2 was ancient history to me in high school - it's been half again as long since the end of the Viet Nam war til now.
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