Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Rules of Golf ?????
Old 04-28-2017, 03:55 PM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
frayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 19th Hole
Posts: 2,967
Rules of Golf ?????

Do you play by the strict rules of golf, playing it as it lies or do you roll it around, never closer to the hole, for a better lie and possibility a better shot ?

Just curious and not judging, just asking after a number of us old farts discussed the pros and cons yesterday after a wet and nasty day on the links.

If you hit your provisional and then find your original, do you play it ?

Do you take a mulligan off the first tee, or play one per nine ?

Own up dudes and lets see who plays by the rules !
__________________

__________________
A totally unblemished life is only for saints.
frayne is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 04-28-2017, 04:00 PM   #2
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Midpack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 14,045
Our senior league is officially winter rules all season. Otherwise I've always played whatever the other players I'm with want to play, usually based on the quality and condition of the course. On a great course we play them as they lie. On a local public course, where the fairways are highly variable, we play winter rules. Of course no improving your lie unless you're in the fairway (not first cut or worse)...
__________________

__________________
No one agrees with other people's opinions; they merely agree with their own opinions -- expressed by somebody else. Sydney Tremayne
Retired Jun 2011 at age 57

Target AA: 45% equity funds / 30% bond funds / 25% cash - radically changed Nov 2018
Target WR: Approx 2.5% Approx 20% SI (secure income, SS only)
Midpack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:03 PM   #3
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,401
I play with two groups. One group is deadly serious and plays by all the rules. The other group is, let's say, more pragmatic!
Meadbh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:07 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Dawg52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Central MS/Orange Beach, AL
Posts: 8,328
My course is not PGA tour quality. We roll it in the fairway, down in the rough. Mulligans on the first tee only. Gimme putts within the leather. Pretty much follow all other rules.
__________________
Retired 3/31/2007@52
Investing style: Full time wuss.
Dawg52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:20 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 2,346
I always play by the rules. If the course is in poor shape, we may agree in advance to be allowed to "roll" the ball on to grass instead of playing out of mud or damaged ground. For practical reasons, we rarely go back to the tee if a ball can't be found and a provisional hasn't been hit, but you are now hitting 4 from there, not 3 as your second tee shot would have been the 3rd. All drops are made legally. Rarely a gimme putt other than sometimes picking up a ball if it's 2 inches from the hole.

That being said, a couple of my friends don't keep score at all...they're just out for fun, so on those golf days I keep my own score, they don't keep score, and we get along just fine.
Music Lover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:25 PM   #6
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
exnavynuke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Acworth
Posts: 1,172
exnavynuke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:27 PM   #7
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,990
We don't roll the ball around once April 1 rolls around. Winter time we cheat like bandits.

We play a municipal course which is in most respects, remarkably well kept. The exception is the sand bunkers, which can have ruts, rocks, deer poo, dead animals...more often than not standing water, landscaping fabric exposed....deep footprints etc etc
I noticed that the high school teams when they play are allowed to rake, and place, which we generally do not, but we do allow for nudging if it's really obviously a bad lie due to lack of any maintenance.
HadEnuff is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:45 PM   #8
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
gcgang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,222
I play by The Rules.

At a Rules workshop several years ago, one of the attendees said their group disagrees with some of the rules, like stroke and distance for OB, and they just played lateral drop near where the ball went out. The instructor said you are free to do whatever you want, but you're not really playing Golf.
__________________
In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. YB
gcgang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 04:49 PM   #9
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
RockyMtn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Scottsdale
Posts: 1,370
We play by the rules...no breakfast balls, no mulligans, no rolling. On occasion if wet we will play lift, clean and place.
__________________
FIRE'D in July 2009 at 51...Never look back!
RockyMtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 05:50 PM   #10
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,990
Quote:
Originally Posted by gcgang View Post
I play by The Rules.

At a Rules workshop several years ago, one of the attendees said their group disagrees with some of the rules, like stroke and distance for OB, and they just played lateral drop near where the ball went out. The instructor said you are free to do whatever you want, but you're not really playing Golf.
Well, that approach assumes that the self-appointed "governing" bodies actually dictate what "golf" is, as opposed to dictating how the game will be played in their sanctioned tournaments.
HadEnuff is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 05:56 PM   #11
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,990
And of course, no conversation on the rules of golf would be complete without Sir Robin William's take on the sport... WARNING: if the "F" word offends you, skip this one...

HadEnuff is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 06:05 PM   #12
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Red Rock Country
Posts: 718
"Improving your lie" is defined as changing your score which was inaccurate to begin with.
Ian S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 06:10 PM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
pb4uski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Vermont & Sarasota, FL
Posts: 23,010
We have some pragmatic looseness with the rules.

If your ball is near to a root then you can roll it so you don't risk injuring yourself without penalty.

We frequently will roll the ball on the fairway if the ball is in a divot... people are supposed to replace divots after all.

The other day we were rolling them on the fairway because it is so early in the season hear at home that the grass hasn't fully come in so you might be on a bare/sparse spot.

One group that I play with will play red stake throughout the course (unstaked and OB) just to keep play moving... that group is low net of all team members so it is unlikely that it impacts the outcome.

But no mulligans and you find your original ball you play it unless you declare it unplayable... in which case your provisional is lying 3 (off the tee)... IOW, we don't make people go back to the spot of the last shot if they find their original ball and it is unplayable and they chose a stoke and distance penalty... we just allow them to play the provisional... not true to what you would do in a tournament but it keeps play moving.

Also, we generally allow gimmes in the leather, but if winning the hole is on the line we can chose not to. No gimmes for birdies or eagles though (one of my playing partners had a 6-inch eagle putt a couple weeks ago and we made him putt it because we wanted him to have the satisfaction of putting it in... thank god he made it... I would have felt real bad if he had missed it).
__________________
If something cannot endure laughter.... it cannot endure.
Patience is the art of concealing your impatience.
Slow and steady wins the race.

Retired Jan 2012 at age 56...60/35/5 AA
pb4uski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 06:11 PM   #14
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: St. Charles
Posts: 1,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by HadEnuff View Post
And of course, no conversation on the rules of golf would be complete without Sir Robin William's take on the sport... WARNING: if the "F" word offends you, skip this one...



F-ing hilarious
__________________
If your not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Never slow down, never grow old!
CardsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 06:14 PM   #15
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 73
My regular group plays by the rules. How else do you know your true handicap? Plus there's our friendly wager riding on the outcome.
__________________
It's not what you earn. It's how you spend it.
Samething is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 06:45 PM   #16
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Dawg52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Central MS/Orange Beach, AL
Posts: 8,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samething View Post
My regular group plays by the rules. How else do you know your true handicap? Plus there's our friendly wager riding on the outcome.
No one in our group has a hc. No need to around here......no local tourneys that requires one. We have friendly wagers too but we all play by relaxed rules so it's the same for all. We're geezers just having fun, not trying to qualify for the U.S. Open.
__________________
Retired 3/31/2007@52
Investing style: Full time wuss.
Dawg52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 07:05 PM   #17
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
zinger1457's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,126
We usually have a money game going so it's mostly by the rules, to speed things up we do gimmes if it's inside 2 feet. I would say if you don't play in tournaments and just out having fun then do whatever it takes to enjoy the game more, nobody cares. If you do play in tournaments then your just hurting yourself by being liberal with the rules during your casual rounds since you'll probably end up with a lower handicap then you would otherwise have.
zinger1457 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2017, 11:17 PM   #18
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
SecondCor521's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boise
Posts: 3,667
I've played for almost 40 years and never had a lesson and never broken 100 and never had an official handicap.

I play in one of two modes:

1. I am keeping score and following all of the USGA Rules of Golf to the best of my ability to understand them and apply them to my situation. This is most of the time.
2. I am not keeping score and am playing for fun and do whatever I think is fun. I usually end up in this mode if I'm playing with my son or if I'm playing with friends and we're scoring so badly it makes sense to stop adding such big numbers together.
__________________
"At times the world can seem an unfriendly and sinister place, but believe us when we say there is much more good in it than bad. All you have to do is look hard enough, and what might seem to be a series of unfortunate events, may in fact be the first steps of a journey." Violet Baudelaire.
SecondCor521 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2017, 06:53 AM   #19
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
donheff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 9,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondCor521 View Post
I've played for almost 40 years and never had a lesson and never broken 100 and never had an official handicap.

I play in one of two modes:

1. I am keeping score and following all of the USGA Rules of Golf to the best of my ability to understand them and apply them to my situation. This is most of the time.
2. I am not keeping score and am playing for fun and do whatever I think is fun. I usually end up in this mode if I'm playing with my son or if I'm playing with friends and we're scoring so badly it makes sense to stop adding such big numbers together.
This sounds sensible to me. If you are playing seriously follow the rules. If you are not, don't. I briefly took up golf when I retired but never took it seriously and at this point I only golf a couple of times a year, when I hook up with friends who golf. I enjoy whacking the ball around but am not even trying to compete so I don't pay attention to my score and never spend more than a minute or so looking for a lost ball. I never knowingly golf with people who would object to this.
__________________
Every man is, or hopes to be, an Idler. -- Samuel Johnson
donheff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2017, 08:48 AM   #20
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Beaverton
Posts: 1,090
For me it depends on who we're playing with and the time of year. I live in Oregon and since it's been under water for the last six months we play winter rules and "lift, clean, place". No more than 6" with no closer to the hole.

Then there's the round with friends that will give some putts inside of 3' depending on if you're out of the hole (score wise) or we just want to be nice.

Then there's the men's groups. Strict adherence to the rules. Putt everything out. Ask for rulings. Because things are a swamp right now we all allow for plugged balls with no penalty if we know the general area where it landed.

Sun's out today finally! Heading to the course in an hour.
__________________

__________________
Jump in, the water's warm.
Bir48die is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hybrid Golf Clubs setab Other topics 17 07-03-2016 08:26 AM
Golf Danny Other topics 70 08-08-2008 05:47 PM
Worlds first indoor golf course............ Dawg52 Other topics 0 08-14-2006 01:49 PM
Warm,Low cost of living,No/Low taxes, inexpensive golf & water sports JohnnieRed Life after FIRE 60 01-16-2006 09:54 AM
Re: Golf & the other half renferme Other topics 7 03-01-2004 10:15 AM

» Quick Links

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:20 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×