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Old 11-08-2006, 04:12 PM   #22
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So, why did it take Bush so long to make this move? I think he is clueless, but are his advisors clueless also?

My one thought is that now that he has blown their achievements in the Congress and the Senate the party isn't willing to risk the next Presidential election. I suspect that he has been given marching orders to clean up his mess before the next election season.
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I'd say it's a day late and a dollar short for the GOP. The House can still subpoena him even after he leaves.
Biden said that he talked to Lugar this morning about what he will do if he becomes Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. He will hold hearings in January about the current situation in Iraq and how we can best get out. He added that questions about the origins of the war, WMDs, and the like can wait until we are no longer at war. Pelosi is also talking about that sort of patience. Other than saying impeachment and defunding the Iraq military operations are off the table, no one is ruling out anything over the long term - yet.
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I agree that the Ds won't de-fund the current venture if only for the sake of the troops. It isn't their job to solve Bush's problem.

Maybe Momma Bush (bless her) failed to teach him that now time for him to wear his big-boy pants and take care of his own messes.
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"George, let me explain this once more ... you fire an unpopular cabinet member BEFORE the election, not AFTER!" (George Sr. to GWB)
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I've been lurking around on the 'net and see that some are saying that the Dem's need to fix the Iraq problem. Other than providing needed resources I think this is the Administration's responsibility. Congress made a mistake authorizing the President's miss-adventure.
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I've been lurking around on the 'net and see that some are saying that the Dem's need to fix the Iraq problem. Other than providing needed resources I think this is the Administration's responsibility. Congress made a mistake authorizing the President's miss-adventure.
And yet Congress, Dems and Republicans alike, keep voting for $50 billion dollar appropriations like they're water.
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"George, let me explain this once more ... you fire an unpopular cabinet member BEFORE the election, not AFTER!" (George Sr. to GWB)
On the other hand, Papa Bush didn't manage to get himself re-elected, so...

Baby Bush probably made a reasonable strategic decision not to allow any crack in the facade before the election, given that he was running on nothing but bluster, self-confidence, and fear-mongering.
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I've been lurking around on the 'net and see that some are saying that the Dem's need to fix the Iraq problem. Other than providing needed resources I think this is the Administration's responsibility. Congress made a mistake authorizing the President's miss-adventure.
The USA needs to fix the Iraq problem. Congress made a mistake authorizing the mis-adventure and Congress needs to participate in fixing it. The fact that some of the new players weren't there when the mistake was made is moot.
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The USA, needs to fix this problem. Damn Right! If, we don't, we won't exist in 30 years.
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The USA, needs to fix this problem. Damn Right! If, we don't, we won't exist in 30 years.
We don't exist any more anyway, at least not in the sense/manner that
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We don't exist any more anyway, at least not in the sense/manner that the USA was founded.
Yeah! Now women can vote and even serve in office, slavery and indentured servitude and child labor and domestic violence are illegal, we have a minimum wage and unemployment insurance and other safety nets, and ladies' skirts are much shorter Isn't it great?!
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We don't exist any more anyway, at least not in the sense/manner that the USA was founded.
Hey JG where do we go to get Amendments 1 and 3-10 of our Constitutional Bill of Rights back?

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