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Old 11-01-2012, 04:33 PM   #141
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Yep.

I have to admit that I'll be disappointed if the TV show "Jersey Shore" manages to survive the effects of Hurricane Sandy.
MTV was way ahead of Sandy and cancelled the show in August.
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MTV was way ahead of Sandy and cancelled the show in August.
No doubt they will pull together a quick hurricane Sandy reunion.
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No doubt they will pull together a quick hurricane Sandy reunion.
They'll have a fundraiser benefit, no doubt.
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I don't blame people for living where there's danger of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, winter storms, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, brush fires, etc...

After all, not everyone is tough enough to deal with scorpions, rattlesnakes, fire ants, ticks, chiggers, tarantulas, brown recluse spiders, copperheads, cottonmouths, rabid skunks, wild hogs, etc...

And even when you think you have put up a good defense perimeter against these murderous critters, comes one sizzling summer of 120F temperature with the electric grid blacked out from overload, and people will be dropping like flies from the heat.

If it's not one thing, it's 'nother. There is no place to hide, I'll tell ya.
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If it's not one thing, it's 'nother.
As Gilda said, "It's always something".
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I don't blame people for living where there's danger of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, winter storms, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, brush fires, etc...

After all, not everyone is tough enough to deal with scorpions, rattlesnakes, fire ants, ticks, chiggers, tarantulas, brown recluse spiders, copperheads, cottonmouths, rabid skunks, wild hogs, etc...

And even when you think you have put up a good defense perimeter against these murderous critters, comes one sizzling summer of 120F temperature with the electric grid blacked out from overload, and people will be dropping like flies from the heat.

If it's not one thing, it's 'nother. There is no place to hide, I'll tell ya.


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Well, where I am in the SW, in the suburb and about 1 mi. from the desert edge, I have not seen as many critters as reported in TX.

But the 120F summer temperature is real. I can joke about it now, because we are in fall, and the high today is a mere 88F!
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Well, where I am in the SW, in the suburb and about 1 mi. from the desert edge, I have not seen as many critters as reported in TX.

But the 120F summer temperature is real. I can joke about it now, because we are in fall, and the high today is a mere 88F!
50s here today but felt much colder. Still damp and blustery after the big storm. Winter is in the air. We set the clocks back this weekend and that's when the dark, cold days of winter begin in earnest.

I think I'd like 80s and dry desert warmth. Older I get, harder it is to deal with the cold and damp. Even so, I love this place. It's imperfect, but it's home. Might just have to give it up though when these old bones find it impossible to deal with another winter.
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I don't blame people for living where there's danger of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, winter storms, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, brush fires, etc...

There is no place to hide, I'll tell ya.
By the time you exclude all the items above there is no place in the US that meets the criteria cited. (Definitely no place in the US and although there may be places in Europe and possibly Brazil (the highlands) since the S Atlantic does not tend to get hurricanes, and its very old rocks inland from Rio. Of course disasters come in two flavors local a regional, a tornado, even like Joplin tends to be local, aid can come from nearby (started with Springfield, then Tulsa, KC and St.Louis) So a lot of what is seen in either Ike or Sandy such as the gas lines does not occur (much of what is happening in Sandy re fuel also happened in Ike in Houston as well due to the power being down at gas stations, this is why the preparedness folks say to fill up before the storm)
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Based on what I see with Fire insurance claims here in SoCal I don't think it will happen.

Here in SoCal people love to live right next to the forest areas prone to firestorms.
When i lived down there it was an annual event to walk along the beach and watch the canyons up behind Malibu burning. As long as these things get subsidized, they will go right on happening. What are home insurance rates up in Topanga canyon, for example?
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I think I'd like 80s and dry desert warmth.
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By the time you exclude all the items above there is no place in the US that meets the criteria cited.
In the Phoenix metropolitan, there is really no danger of any of the natural disasters that I listed. Not too many critters either. It's just hot! From Oct to May, it is nice.

The plan was for us to escape the heat by spending the summer up in our "mountain home" which is at 7,000ft , and also by RV'ing up north. However my wife still has familial duty in town, so I am still stuck here in the summer and still get to complain about the heat.
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Listening to the radio there was talk about the storm surge being made worse due to rising sea levels due to global warming. This was passed along as though it is a fact. Has anybody bothered to fact check this statement?
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I don't blame people for living where there's danger of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, winter storms, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, brush fires, etc...

After all, not everyone is tough enough to deal with scorpions, rattlesnakes, fire ants, ticks, chiggers, tarantulas, brown recluse spiders, copperheads, cottonmouths, rabid skunks, wild hogs, etc...

And even when you think you have put up a good defense perimeter against these murderous critters, comes one sizzling summer of 120F temperature with the electric grid blacked out from overload, and people will be dropping like flies from the heat.

If it's not one thing, it's 'nother. There is no place to hide, I'll tell ya.
Well, people could live on the flat. Rich people in the east Bay could live in Piedmont or Alameda, but very many of them choose the hills, and they do get burned out.

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Listening to the radio there was talk about the storm surge being made worse due to rising sea levels due to global warming. This was passed along as though it is a fact. Has anybody bothered to fact check this statement?
While there has been global warming and sea levels are higher, the rise in sea level is only a couple millimeters a year, so I'm skeptical.
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Finally getting a break in the action here and reading the forum. I work here in Connecticut operating the transmission grid, 69kv up to 345kv. Drove to work Monday evening just as Sandy was really winding up here. Took over the shift about 5pm and spent the rest of the night watching things fall apart. The transmission grid was hardest hit in southwestern Connecticut area and the coastline. Finally got the last line back in service tonight. The damage to the transmission grid from this storm was only about 25% of what we saw last October. Thank goodness I won't be here next October! (class of 2013
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Steve, thank you so much for hanging in there. Power line electricians and grid managers/administrators don't get the kudos they deserve. Few know that power line electricians have a very dangerous job and they spend a lot of time away from their families.
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Listening to the radio there was talk about the storm surge being made worse due to rising sea levels due to global warming. This was passed along as though it is a fact. Has anybody bothered to fact check this statement?
In new york sea level rise has been 1.7 mm per year over the last 100 years, which is around 1/2 a foot over century. Studies (worth what you pay for them) claim 2 to 3 times this for the 21st century.
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I don't blame people for living where there's danger of hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, winter storms, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, brush fires, etc...

After all, not everyone is tough enough to deal with scorpions, rattlesnakes, fire ants, ticks, chiggers, tarantulas, brown recluse spiders, copperheads, cottonmouths, rabid skunks, wild hogs, etc...

And even when you think you have put up a good defense perimeter against these murderous critters, comes one sizzling summer of 120F temperature with the electric grid blacked out from overload, and people will be dropping like flies from the heat.

If it's not one thing, it's 'nother. There is no place to hide, I'll tell ya.
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And with all that, people still inflict more harm and damage than nature to the health and property of others.
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We heard from my nephew who moved to his new job in Manhattan just a couple of months ago. His area suffers no flood, no black out, and he only has to walk a few blocks to go to work. He has been working long hours (he's a pharmacist) to cover for people who live further away and cannot get in. He moved to NYC to get some exciting city life, but I am sure this was not what he had in mind.

Out of curiosity, I look up the area around the UN, where he says he is, and see that it is indeed at a higher elevation, compared to the area around Wall St.
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You left out snow. I hate snow.
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