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I sure hope this or something like it takes hold sartalics.com. It would improve communication in today's world. I know I don't pick up on sarcasm too often...
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Rats, I tried to think of a sarcastic response but I can't
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My first real work friend was a Brit expat. Wittiest person I've ever met. He always said the best sarcasm was when the target recipient was never sure if the comment was sarcastic or not, or if it was an insult or compliment.
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That was my attempt at sarcasm, but looking it up I realized that I have not understood the term. I thought it just meant saying the opposite of what you mean. As in saying "good job" when you meant "bad job.". But I learned there's supposed to be some irony involved.
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That was my attempt at sarcasm, but looking it up I realized that I have not understood the term. I thought it just meant saying the opposite of what you mean. As in saying "good job" when you meant "bad job.". But I learned there's supposed to be some irony involved.
Maybe you need to add an irony tablet to your daily supplements.
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My first real work friend was a Brit expat. Wittiest person I've ever met. He always said the best sarcasm was when the target recipient was never sure if the comment was sarcastic or not, or if it was an insult or compliment.
One day I was walking out to the parking lot at the same time as a VP that I knew quite well. He asked me how my citizenship application was coming along. I replied, "Almost there, all's that left is the lobotomy". He stopped and stared at me for a moment, then pointed his finger at me and said, "One day that sense of humor of yours is going to get you into trouble!"
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I sure hope this or something like it takes hold sartalics.com. It would improve communication in today's world. I know I don't pick up on sarcasm too often...
Like emoticons, I predict it'll suck the fun out of the challenge of writing a well-crafted sentence.

Hint: this is not sarcasm.
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I can think of one ready-made sarcasm code that already exists, or at least it seems like sarcasm to me. Seems to be chiefly a habit of Southern women, and consists of beginning a sentence with "Bless his/her heart, ... "

As in "Bless his heart, he couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the sole."

As long as you say "Bless his/her/your heart" you can insult the living daylights out of anyone, in any company.

Is that sarcasm, or a special case?
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I sure hope this or something like it takes hold sartalics.com. It would improve communication in today's world. I know I don't pick up on sarcasm too often...
Wait. Are you being sarcastic?
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As long as you say "Bless his/her/your heart" you can insult the living daylights out of anyone, in any company.
Is that sarcasm, or a special case?
It sounds so much more tactful than "Bless his pointy little head!"

I don't know if the Navy still practices this in formal correspondence, but in the 1990s the senior officers took to closing their (hardcopy) letters with "Warm regards" instead of "Sincerely" or "Respectfully" or some other platitude. Coincidentally the ones using the "Warm regards" conclusion were usually delivering very bad (or at least unpopular) news.

It didn't take long for the rank & file to interpret "Warm regards" as direction from higher authority to go perform an anatomically impossible sexual act upon oneself. Today I still smirk whenever I see policy announcements which close with that phrase.
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As long as you say "Bless his/her/your heart" you can insult the living daylights out of anyone, in any company.

Is that sarcasm, or a special case?
No, it's just sugar coated mean - Southern style.

But, bless your heart that you had to ask.
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Where I work, the phrase is "I love him/her to death, but...." Then the knife is inserted into the person under discussion. The other deadly phrase is, "He's a nice man/She's a nice lady..." This is how you know the person under discussion is considered dumb and useless.

Euphemisms aren't sarcasm. Sarcasm is mean and nasty, deal with it, period. Euphemisms are a way to be mean and nasty and get away with it.

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I can think of one ready-made sarcasm code that already exists, or at least it seems like sarcasm to me. Seems to be chiefly a habit of Southern women, and consists of beginning a sentence with "Bless his/her heart, ... "

As in "Bless his heart, he couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the sole."

As long as you say "Bless his/her/your heart" you can insult the living daylights out of anyone, in any company.

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As long as you say "Bless his/her/your heart" you can insult the living daylights out of anyone, in any company.

Is that sarcasm, or a special case?
Having lived north and south, I never took 'bless her heart' as sarcasm, but it could be.

Sort of like "with all due respect..." which can be sincere, but also to "insult the living daylights out of anyone."

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