View Poll Results: Is it appropriate to "save" chairs at a beach or pool?
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07-27-2016, 08:51 AM
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#41
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Originally Posted by CaliKid
I think you taking someone else's chair has little to do with what you think the hotel promised you.
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We are going to disagree that it was "someone else's chair." I have just as much right to that chair as any other guest.
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07-27-2016, 08:51 AM
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In mexico you pay a local a few bucks to sit in your chair while your gone. Fighting over beach furniture could be entertaining for some but spreading a little cash to a local takes all the drama out of chair gate. Relax life isn't that long.
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07-27-2016, 08:55 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by JustCurious
We are going to disagree that it was "someone else's chair." I have just as much right to that chair as any other guest.
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I didn't read the entire thread but is anyone on this forum saying you did the right thing by "re-claiming" the chair?
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07-27-2016, 09:00 AM
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I would never move someone's personal stuff but definitely would take an unattended chair (unattended for half an hour counts imo) if it's just a hotel towel saving it. But I would first ask the pool attendants to find me a chair. They can move people's stuff and hold it for them. If they can't I would probably escalate it to a manager if lying out on a pool chair was the main reason I picked that hotel (I have actually called hotels ahead of time re lounge chair supply).
If I sat in an unattended chair, I would have just surrendered it to the claiming party and just said I didn't realize they were still using it.
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07-27-2016, 09:04 AM
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I can picture the thread on some other website right about now:
"Recently we were at this lovely beach resort. We started the day with a romantic breakfast by the pool and then walked to the beach where we enjoyed the morning sun on chaise lounges overlooking the water. We then decided to go for a short walk, hand in hand, as it was our honeymoon... oh we are so in love! Then we got back to the chairs, where our personal belongings were, and these "people" actually had the nerve to take OUR stuff of the chairs and had thrown it down in the sand. We saw who we thought had done it and politely asked them if they had done that. Amazingly, they were extremely rude and very confrontational with us. They told us they weren't our chairs. It didn't ruin our trip but it certainly put a damper on that day. We told the hotel manager of the horribly rude guests and the hotel manager apologized profusely for not policing the chairs better to keep that kind of rude behavior from happening. The hotel also compensated us with a free breakfast the next morning to try and make up for it. That sure helped make us feel better."
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07-27-2016, 09:08 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by JustCurious
We are going to disagree that it was "someone else's chair." I have just as much right to that chair as any other guest.
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Maybe but the hotel are the police for that issue not you.
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07-27-2016, 09:11 AM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliKid
I can picture the thread on some other website right about now:
"Recently we were at this lovely beach resort. We started the day with a romantic breakfast by the pool and then walked to the beach where we enjoyed the morning sun on chaise lounges overlooking the water. We then decided to go for a short walk, hand in hand, as it was our honeymoon... oh we are so in love! Then we got back to the chairs, where our personal belongings were, and these "people" actually had the nerve to take OUR stuff of the chairs and had thrown it down in the sand. We saw who we thought had done it and politely asked them if they had done that. Amazingly, they were extremely rude and very confrontational with us. They told us they weren't our chairs. It didn't ruin our trip but it certainly put a damper on that day. We told the hotel manager of the horribly rude guests and the hotel manager apologized profusely for not policing the chairs better to keep that kind of rude behavior from happening. The hotel also compensated us with a free breakfast the next morning to try and make up for it. That sure helped make us feel better."
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That would be funny except that they did not "go for a short walk." They went out early in the morning and put some stuff on two beach chairs and left the beach for several hours, and at some point they got in their car and left the hotel property to "get a bite to eat" (their words) and when they came back to the beach around midday to claim "their chairs" we could see that they had lunch in their hand that was purchased somewhere not on the property (the hotel did not have a restaurant). I watched them do the same thing the next morning, it is a common practice.
So, if you change your story to reflect the facts of what actually happened, it would not be as funny.
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07-27-2016, 09:14 AM
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How come no one has suggest that a "beach resort" should have a better supply of beach chairs?
They build these high rise beach resorts and leave the guests to figure out chair etiquette. Buy more chairs....I've been at some of the nicer resorts and the chair situation is absurd. If you book a trip to Mexico in Jan you are going to be spending the day on the beach. We were at a resort in the shade and employees came a roped off a larger part of the beach, including many beach chairs at 1100 AM they told the people in the chairs you need to move we are having a wedding here at 4 PM..several guests said fine I'll move by 2 or 3 o'clock and we told you need to move NOW...no sorry or lets move some chairs, just move along.
The hotels need to do more and then they shrug their shoulders when people aren't happy...we won't return to the Dreams resort that pulled the wedding maneuver as it was almost a daily occurrence during our stay.
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07-27-2016, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ivinsfan
How come no one has suggest that a "beach resort" should have a better supply of beach chairs?
They build these high rise beach resorts and leave the guests to figure out chair etiquette. Buy more chairs....I've been at some of the nicer resorts and the chair situation is absurd. If you book a trip to Mexico in Jan you are going to be spending the day on the beach. We were at a resort in the shade and employees came a roped off a larger part of the beach, including many beach chairs at 1100 AM they told the people in the chairs you need to move we are having a wedding here at 4 PM..several guests said fine I'll move by 2 or 3 o'clock and we told you need to move NOW...no sorry or lets move some chairs, just move along.
The hotels need to do more and then they shrug their shoulders when people aren't happy...we won't return to the Dreams resort that pulled the wedding maneuver as it was almost a daily occurrence during our stay.
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07-27-2016, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
I would never move someone's personal stuff but definitely would take an unattended chair (unattended for half an hour counts imo) if it's just a hotel towel saving it. But I would first ask the pool attendants to find me a chair. They can move people's stuff and hold it for them.
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Can you explain why it is ok for a pool attendant to move their stuff, but it is not ok for me to move their stuff?
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07-27-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ivinsfan
How come no one has suggest that a "beach resort" should have a better supply of beach chairs?
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because that's off topic
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07-27-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JustCurious
Can you explain why it is ok for a pool attendant to move their stuff, but it is not ok for me to move their stuff?
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because that's what they are paid to do
they can be jerks to the other guests, you can't
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07-27-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Hitter
they can be jerks to the other guests, you can't
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I beg to differ.
(Just to be clear, I am making a joke, I do not think I was being a jerk)
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07-27-2016, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JustCurious
Can you explain why it is ok for a pool attendant to move their stuff, but it is not ok for me to move their stuff?
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Because they are the chair police and we're not. And they can keep the guests' stuff safe while we would be dumping it on the sand or pool deck.
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07-27-2016, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronc879
If it's much more than 30 minutes I would go to the hotel staff and ask them if they would allow me to take the "abandoned" chairs.
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I don't get this. First, I do not understand why I need permission from the hotel staff to use an abandoned chair. Second, a hotel staff worker could be a teenager working the summer for extra money, and depending on where you are, especially if you are outside of the U.S., some of them do not speak English so it would be difficult to communicate in any event, so I don't see the need for me to seek their opinion, I can draw my own.
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07-27-2016, 09:35 AM
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Several years back, a group of us were at a very nice all-inclusive in Mexico. On Day 1, luckily, we were able to get enough beach chairs for the whole group, even though it was pretty crowded. The hotel had waiters on the beach to deliver drinks to the customers. We drank a lot, but tipped our waiter well, even though tips were supposedly included in the all-inclusive fee. As we were leaving the beach at the end of the day, we mentioned to our waiter that we would see him tomorrow. Next day (and for the rest of the week after that), our waiter rushed to greet us when we came back done to the beach and escorted us to a group of chairs he had set up and saved for us in a very prime shady location. We tipped him even better after that. Money well spent. I will admit, however, that we've not been able to replicate this feat in many subsequent trips, despite keeping up the good tipping.
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07-27-2016, 09:46 AM
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If I had left nothing but a resort towel on my chair, and come back to find the chair claimed by someone else, I would think them perhaps a little rude but would shrug it off and find another place to sit.
If I had left any personal belongings--my own beach towel, a book, my beach bag, my shoes; and come back to find them moved to the sand and the chair missing, I'd think the chair thief was extremely rude and self-centered. I would probably say something to you if you took my chair in that case. But I'm someone who would've been on the beach using the chair before 9 a.m. By the time you came down at midday, I was either walking on the beach (easily more than 30 minutes) or gone off to get lunch. If you want a chair, get there early!
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07-27-2016, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuckanut
The hotels have learned from the airlines: It's cheaper to pit your customers against each other competing for limited space/equipment, than to provide an adequate amount for each paying customer.
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Bingo.
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07-27-2016, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JustCurious
(Just to be clear, I am making a joke, I do not think I was being a jerk)
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sounds like the rest of us disagree - forum intervention lol
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07-27-2016, 10:02 AM
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I agree with the majority here: what the other guest did was rude, but I wouldn't have moved their stuff. I'd have also let the hotel staff deal with it, rather than touching anyone's belongings.
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