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Old 05-02-2013, 12:44 PM   #21
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Craigslist is notorious among bicyclists as being the tool that bike thieves use to sell their stolen property.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:45 PM   #22
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I sell on ebay regularly and occasionally on Craig's list . The only items that go on Craig's list are things too large to ship . I take the pictures and write the add and my SO handles the actual selling .On ebay I started with things around the house that were easy to ship and now I mostly sell women's dresses . My suggestion to anyone wanting to start selling is start with something easy and inexpensive before you try to sell anything else . People will take advantage of newbies . Plus a new seller unless it is a rare item will not get to much attention. The fees are a pain but it is an easy way to sell and top rated sellers get breaks on the fees .
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:59 PM   #23
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I started selling on eBay about 15 years ago and for awhile sold a lot (I sold mostly collectible paperback books and collectible trading cards).

Then, it was taking too much time and work was busy so I quit.

Last year, I did go back and sell a couple of phones. On the positive side, doing a listing is way easier now than it was 10 years ago. Back in the day, I had to do everything in my listing myself and customize each listing and then I had to personally send each buyer a long email with instructions. I had to wait to be paid and then would have to deposit the money. Once Paypal came in, it was way easier even with the Paypal fee. Now, a listing takes much less time to do and all the post-transaction stuff is basically handled for you. And, having payment through Paypal is way easier.

That said - I ended up trading in my last couple of phones to Amazon for a gift card (we had changed phone carriers so were selling the old iPhones). I did get more money on eBay but once I factored in fees, I did about 95% as well just trading in for an Amazon gift card and there was much less hassle.

As for fees - I get emails from eBay all the time offering various sales for reduced fees or some special.

As for Craigslist - I have the same concern about people coming to my house. When we were moving from a short-term rental to our current house we had some furniture we wanted to get rid of. I didn't want to just junk it, but I had no room for it in the new house. So we offered it for sale on Craigslist. We had moved out of the rental so the only things there were the furniture. DH would meet potential buyers there and, of course, took only cash and it was up to the buyers to move the furniture out. We did end up selling a few pieces and I was happy with the prices. The main negative was people setting up with him to come and look at the furniture then just never showing.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:21 PM   #24
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Hey all you Craigslist robbers - when you come to my house to rob me I will have my Ruger LCP ready to cap you. What? No robbers read here. Oh well nevermind.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:47 PM   #25
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More than a decade ago we used ebay to sell a power boat and to sell a car.
Tried to sell our nephew's car and my old carr 5 years ago and everyone wanted too much off the wholesale price. Switched to Craigslist - got a much better price and it was free.

I agree with tryan that it's a great way to get free labor. We offered free fill dirt on craigslist and successfully got rid of about 3 yards of dirt. We had to pay to get rid of the rest. Turns out there's a whole micro-industry of moving dirt around San Diego county - and you pay whether you're importing or exporting the dirt. Adds a lot to construction costs. So to get rid of 3 yards AND to not have to shovel it ourselves... it was awesome.

Smaller stuff - we meet the buyer/seller in a public place... for example when we bought my son's saxophone we met the seller at Starbucks. No worries that this was a stolen one - it was too beat for that - but for a starter horn - it's fine.

We've bought bigger items from folks on craigslist - our piano, a medical bed for my father in law.... Maybe we looked like the thieves because in both cases we were buying from homes worth between 2 and 10 times our house... but we weren't thieves.
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CL free stuff is great for getting free labor.
Ha! And tryan is the reason I don't buy anything from CL either.

I don't "get" CL or Ebay. Neither are in my comfort zone. Our neighbor sold a few cars on CL. Some of the whackos that came by looking at it scare the <something> out of me. But my neighbor always managed to sell the cars. And he's older than me. Have to hand it to the guy.
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I have bought a number of items from EBay, Amazon, and CL, with all good results. Have never listed anything, though. As a buyer, one advantage of CL is I can come and look at the item before I buy.

If there is something I want to just get rid of (for free), I use Freecycle. Have been happy with that as well.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:43 PM   #28
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When ever I need something a little out of the main stream, I look on eBay first. For example I needed a new belt for my brush chipper. $25 at local lawnmower shop, $13 on eBay - same identical belt. Honda / NGK spark plug - $4.88 at Home Depot, $2.50 on eBay. Ditto on RV stuff, which has a huge markup.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:55 PM   #29
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As for Craigslist - The main negative was people setting up with him to come and look at the furniture then just never showing.
I use CL a lot for finding tenants for my rental properties.

To avoid no shows my process is to have them call me or me call them 1-2 hours before the showing. I tell them if we don't connect on the phone to confirm I won't be there. It's a 40 minute drive to some of my rentals so it has made a world of difference in getting people to show up.
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I've sold surfboards twice on CL. The first one I drove out to meet the guy as he seemed a bit sketchy. He haggled and finally settled at the lower end of my range (I kept it relatively high because he turned out to be a surfboard flipper and was pretty disingenuous through the whole process).

Second time was to a young kid who had his father bring him a long way to my home. No haggle, full price, no problems and he was so excited that I got a kick out of the whole thing. Worked out well, totally different than the first time.

Best thing about it is that it made room in my storage racks for 2 new boards!
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eBay fees recently increased AGAIN and changed so that they (and their wholly owned Paypal) get a much larger piece of the transaction on more expensive items now. I know that most folks do not sell really expensive items, but for those that do ~ before April 1st (or so) the total eBay fees to sell a $2000 item was $83.40...it is NOW $140.00 to sell the SAME item!

Having said that, with my 14 years experience buying and selling on the interweb, with the exception of selling a used car, I have yet to find another selling or buying arena that provides more bang for the buck! Millions of prospective buyers at your fingertips still make them my choice for selling...and while I also buy there, I have to admit that I do not consider it to be the cheapest place for curmudgeons to buy "everything"...

As others have touted, Craigslist is another great place to buy and sell and with the fee free model that they use, it does present different challenges to selling and there are questions that any seller should ask themselves BEFORE listing anything for sale:

How do you want to be contacted? Using your personal email address may open you up to receiving spam from those that would just harvest your address...adding a phone number could do the same thing....so if you don't like spam email and phone solicitors, you might want to limit contact thru Craigslist.

Do you want people coming to your home? While the item that you have for sale is more than likely located there, do you want to invite strangers into your home? Of course, if the item is large (furniture, car) you may have little choice, but if possible, a public parking lot (of YOUR choice) nearby seems to be a safe alternative.

I actually just sold my 10 year old Toyota Sienna this week on Craigslist....did my research to determine value, put it on CL at 6:30 AM Monday...got my 1st email by 7 AM and had it sold by 5 PM the same day for my full asking price.

I also buy and sell daily on eBay and after the market downturn in 2008, have used the activity to help facilitate and sustain my ER.
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I tried to buy a car once off Craig's List...never found one where the buyer was motivated. My theory: since it's free to list, none of them were in a hurry to sell and priced on the high side. I went to some other sites where you pay by the week to list your car, and every one I looked at was priced better and had more motivated sellers.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:31 PM   #33
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The Craigslist robber that I mentioned hit again last night. The 10th robbery that we know of. He talked a guy into meeting him at an apartment complex in a very bad area at midnight. We've had a good idea for about a week who the bad guy was based on cell phone records, but the last victim couldn't pick him out of a line-up. This victim did so hopefully he will be in custody soon.
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The fees on ebay/paypal are getting large enough to be annoying. But it is still the biggest market around and I've managed to sell many items likely for more than I would have otherwise. In fact, I've sold some items for more than I paid for them new.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:14 AM   #35
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I use CL a lot for finding tenants for my rental properties.

To avoid no shows my process is to have them call me or me call them 1-2 hours before the showing. I tell them if we don't connect on the phone to confirm I won't be there. It's a 40 minute drive to some of my rentals so it has made a world of difference in getting people to show up.
In my CL rental listing I'll list an Open House for 2 hours on a weekend or evening. Then tell them to call only if the open house time doesn't work. If they call, a second open house is scheduled for thier chosen time (all future calls are notified of the second open house). 2 open houses and the unit usually fills ... NO private showings ... too many no-show experiances.

Creates a bit of the mob-scene initially (which helps motivate the serious lookers) ... but with a 2 hour window the crowd thins.
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I've read some reports of a new problem happening with Ebay, which is that the Buyer pays for an item, receives item, and then claims he never received it, and Ebay removes money from Seller's account to "refund" buyer, thereby ripping off Seller. There must be a way to avoid this, as a Seller, no? Return receipt requested? Some sort of tracking? Anyone else read about this happening on Ebay? Thanks
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:44 PM   #37
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I'll have to say I like CL a lot for most items. haven't had any big problems.. items that are too cheap to ebay and ship.. or too big. I live in a pretty safe area though.

Iphones I sell on ebay.. I've tried on CL, but a lot more shady people are buying or selling iphones.
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Just sold four things on ebay last week. Did have to prod a couple of folks for payment. But all paid up, without a problem.

Never tried CL, but too many scary stories keep me away from trying there.
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I've sold a lot of things on eBay over many years, and I never shipped anything without delivery confirmation. USPS has a minimal fee for this and it is well worth your while. The postal carrier scans the barcode on the package when he places it in the mailbox, so you can verify the time it was actually delivered. There is no way for the recipient to claim non-delivery.
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I sell on ebay regularly and occasionally on Craig's list . The only items that go on Craig's list are things too large to ship
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We've sold hundred of items on ebay and craigslist and we far prefer to sell via ebay. As Moemg notes, the only things we put on craigslist are things that are too big to ship.

On ebay we sold stuff ranging from collectibles (old movie posters) to 1k+ lenses and computers. The fees are high (maybe 15% - I forget exactly) but generally worth it because ebay is the biggest marketplace. Rare/niche items will sell eventually (e.g. we sold an old hex wrench for an apple II computer for $15, out of print korean language drama dvd series for $3-400, etc.). Items in-demand will fetch a fair market price and be gone in one week (personally I feel the price achieved by many auctions is higher than it should be for used items).

We haven't had any major problems with buyers but I think the key here is to only ship to verified addresses, only sell to US buyers, ship with confirmed delivery, and document any possible defect of the item.

Craigslist is problematic because it takes a lot of your time to move items (dealing with possible buyers) and the market for niche items is very small to non-existent. To sell on CL people will show up at your house (unless you arrange to meet them somewhere which may not be possible for large items), they often flake out regarding times, or decide not to go ahead with the purchase. When we were selling stuff on CL we moved it into the garage so they wouldn't have to enter the house. You may also have to haggle with buyers.
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