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Old 10-11-2014, 04:03 PM   #21
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I went in a running shoe store the other day to buy an accessory item. I knew exactly what I wanted, so I had picked it off the rack and was standing at the checkout counter within 30 seconds of entering the store.

Clerk: Can I get your name?
Me: No, I'm not in your system.

OK, I can use your phone number.
No, I just want to pay for this.

That's OK, we can use your credit card.
I'm paying cash.

Well, I just need your first and last name.
No you don't.

She was thinking of a response to this while ringing up the sale, but the whole time I had been counting out the exact change and I put it out on the counter.

Finally, she stared at me for about 30 seconds while I stared back.
"Was there something else?"
Yes, you can either give me my receipt for the cash purchase or return my money.

Rips off the receipt and practically throws it at me.

Yes, this is one of the reasons I buy so much online.
So how do you buy online without providing name, address, telephone, e-mail, and credit card?
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Old 10-11-2014, 04:31 PM   #22
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For some goofy reason I like dealing with pushy sales people. Kind of a challenge I guess and I have no trouble at all being nasty if the circumstances call for it.
That is just weird. But I guess it's like toying with telemarketers and I like doing that sometimes.

A door-to-door salesguy rang the doorbell and I answered the door. He started his spiel and I said "You must not have seen the sign at the development entrance saying "No solicitors".

He ignored that and continued on.

I said "Do I need to call the police?"

He took the hint and left.

Re the salesclerks who ask for phone number, etc. I decline. If they insist I just make stuff up, that's faster than arguing about it and it dilutes the value of their database.

There have been others but I can't remember any at the moment.
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Old 10-11-2014, 04:33 PM   #23
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So how do you buy online without providing name, address, telephone, e-mail, and credit card?
You don't of course. But the reputable companies allow you to opt out of their advertising and I use a separate E-mail address for online purchases. It's easy to delete that one and open another when the spam gets too much.
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Old 10-11-2014, 04:41 PM   #24
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The tales of pushy cashiers reminded me of the time my wife texted me while I was out to pick up calcium supplements for her. I was 30 feet from a GNC at the time so I went there.

I bring them to the register.
"Do you have a Gold Card?"
I don't have one.
"I can sign you up in 1 minute. The card is free and you'll get $3 off right now."
No thanks.
"But you'll save $3 right now and it's free."
I don't want one.
"You won't even need to carry it. We can look you up from your phone number."
No.
"Well, if you don't want to save $3, how about donating $1 to St. Jude's Childrens Hospital?"
No.
"It's only a dollar."
No.
"If you are going to throw away $3, why not give $1 to St. Jude's?"
No.
"So you think GNC needs the $3 more than St. Jude's needs $1, I guess."
<I just stare>
"I mean if you are going to throw away $3, you could give some of it back to sick kids."
<More staring>
"Oooookay, then. Here you go."

I knew he was just messing with me after the halfway point but I did not want to go home without the thing she asked me to get for her. You could probably guess how many times I've been in a GNC since then.
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Just this week the American Red Cross called. I am a very frequent donor, but for various reasons I'm taking a few more weeks off (16 instead of 8).

She calls me up and says: "We have a blood drive tomorrow, what time would you like?" That hit a raw nerve for me, and I told her even though I'm a reliable donor, you can't act like that. So, put me on your do not call list.

So they'll have to wait for me to call them, or else I'm filing a Do Not Call complaint if they call back again.
I'm also a frequent donor for many years. I always got blood drive notices in the mail and then a few years ago the calls started. I didn't mind, it was just an invitation or a reminder, no problem. Then the calls became more frequent and they were always pushing for an appointment. I don't like to make an appointment, I'd rather walk in when it's convenient. Then I read about their labor problems and that their workers went on strike because of the wacky way their scheduling worked so the next time it was time to donate I went ahead and made an appointment, and then they had to call 2 more times to confirm and then to remind me of my appointment!

I showed up to donate at my appointment time and got a colored name tag to indicate that I had an appointment time. It didn't matter at all, I still had to wait just as long as the walk in donors. So I stopped making appointments.

After one of these donations I got a notice in the mail to advise me that I was one of the donors eligible to make a different kind of donation, it was either apheresis or double blood cells or something. They started calling to ask me to make an appointment for this special donation type but I asked questions about it and it involves a 2 hour commitment, hooked up the whole time. I said no thank you and that I would continue regular donations.

They started calling weekly! I finally asked them to go into my file and to make a note to no longer call about the special donation. I was very polite, so the next time they called I got nasty (which for me is just lowering the level of politeness!) and told them that I already requested that my file indicate that I am not interested in the special donations. I think that ended that episode.

But the regular donation calls still came. So the next time I was donating I asked them to change my status to no phone calls. The tech/phlebotomist said that she couldn't do that, I'd have to call the Red Cross and ask to speak to a supervisor. WTF!

Instead, what I did is I went home and went online and in my online account for American Red Cross I deleted my phone number. That solved the issue.

I just donated last week and they still had my number for ID purposes (along with birth date, address, SSN and gender - yes I'm still female...all day) but I don't receive their calls anymore. I get an email for blood drives nearby and that's fine.
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So how do you buy online without providing name, address, telephone, e-mail, and credit card?
Irrelevant.
I wanted the item immediately and I was paying cash. No conversation required.
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I was a regular blood donor for many years, apart from a 12 month hiatus after a visit to the jungles of South America, where I could conceivably have contracted malaria (I didn't). Then, some time around 2000, the CJD scare led to a new rule that if you had lived in Western Europe in the 1980s (and presumably were not a vegetarian) you could no longer donate blood. I met those criteria at my next visit and my donation was refused. I then began to receive calls requesting that I make an appointment to donate! After several requests, these calls stopped coming.
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Wow Sue J and Meadbh!

I'm a bit cranky about my blood donor experience. I really did not like this "sales call". I'm really thinking of going to the other donation pool in my area and trying them out. Rumor has it that they have better perks. I don't care about cookies. I just don't want people shaking me down to donate.
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1) Similar experience to OP's - responded to an ADT Security ad for some big discount. Salesman shows up and Mr. A. lets him in. Turns out the "discount" is just to get the price down to what a contract costs anyway; they quote you an inflated "original price" to start with. Mr. A. says we'll have to think about that, thank you. I walk away, expecting Mr. A. to escort the salesman out the door. Instead, as I lurk in an adjacent room, I overhear the salesman demanding that we make a decision NOW. I reappear to see Mr. A., looking confused, with this big, tall [body part] half his age standing over him like he's going to MAKE him sign the contract. "Is there a problem here?" I say in deadly tones. "No Ma'am, I was just trying to explain to your husband..." "Please leave our home."

2) Constantly getting on-line and mail ads, "Are you ready for a walk-in bathtub?" Actually I wish there would be a human sales person, so I could ask them: What do you mean, ready...What is this...something you have to work your way up to? And wouldn't you have to sit there, stark naked, while all the water drains out? And if it's meant for invalids, then who cleans the tub?

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2) Constantly getting on-line and mail ads, "Are you ready for a walk-in bathtub?" Actually I wish there would be a human sales person, so I could ask them: What do you mean, ready...What is this...something you have to work your way up to? And wouldn't you have to sit there, stark naked, while all the water drains out? And if it's meant for invalids, then who cleans the tub?

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It turns out a that a few years ago I signed up on the DMA site to stop junk mail. It hasn't stopped it, but it clearly slowed down.

For example, AARP never gave me a request to join. Hence, I then don't get all the other weird stuff like walk in tubs.

Now my dad gets them all. Thankfully I now have control over his phone and screen everything. Some of the calls are just plain disgusting. They are very clearly targeted to dupe a 90 year old. They are sharks and they smell blood in the water.

And Dad is vulnerable to a degree. He once bought a cemetery plot he didn't want. (Got out of that via "cool down" rules.) He also invited a security system guy into the house. This was in the 70s. Dad was impressed until the guy quoted the price. My dad blew up and chased the guy out of the house. I never saw him act like that before. It made an impression on me.
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The worst offenders I run into periodically are the door-to-door salespeople for Jesus. Talk about won't take no for an answer. Guess with God on their side, the Beware of Dogs sign wasn't enough of a deterrent. One time a pair of orthodox evangelicals got past my usually locked gate, made it all the way to the door, before my 4 Rottweilers figured it out. I mentioned that the dogs out back would be coming around any moment. Problem solved.
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The worst offenders I run into periodically are the door-to-door salespeople for Jesus. Talk about won't take no for an answer.
I've often wondered if answering the door naked would end that conversation before it even started?

Most of these ultra-religious people I've met seem to be prudes, and I bet the shock of somebody answering the door in their birthday suit would be enough to run them off.
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I try not to get my undies in a twist over pushy salescritters. Maybe because I worked in sales at one time, also managed sales people. Whatever the reason, I view them like a commercial or bad show on TV - time to change the channel or turn the set off.
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I have a large card that I keep near the front door that says, "NO RELIGION SOLICITORS, PLEASE".

If I see them in the neighborhood, I put the card in the window on the storm door and they turn around as soon as they see it.

A new twist is now they approach you out in the shopping areas. I was at my corner where I'm a crossing guard and I saw a car park a few stores away. The guy got out and approached a few people before he got to me. I saw him coming so I already knew what he was doing.

Our worst in-home salesman was from a replacement window company. We called to have an estimate for the whole house and the guy was very nice but after 2 hours I told him I needed a number already. After 3 hours I told him just give me an estimate for this one window and I'd know if he was in the range of our other estimate. After 4 hours he finally gave us a number but I wanted specifics per room in case we didn't do the whole house all at once. He couldn't do that, but if we signed TODAY there was a discount and free yada yada, whatever.

We told him he was much higher than we expected and that it was time for him to go, helped him pack up his demo and his samples and helped him leave. He acted like he was so surprised that we didn't jump on his estimate and sign right then!
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I wanted specifics per room in case we didn't do the whole house all at once. He couldn't do that, but if we signed TODAY there was a discount and free yada yada, whatever.
That's what annoys me about places like that (Champion Windows is typical). They deluge you with coupons and special offers of XX PERCENT OFF but you can never get their list prices to see what it's a percentage off of. They simply won't give you the price of anything, since "it's all custom."
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The worst offenders I run into periodically are the door-to-door salespeople for Jesus. Talk about won't take no for an answer.

True story: Back in the 70s the worst offenders were the Jehovah's witnesses. One of my high school friends had really cool atheist or agnostic parents (not sure which). Mom was ethnic and raised Jewish and dad was Sicilian. Needless to say they were loud and outspoken household. Well, the JW folks were at the door doing their thing. His mom listened to them and then invited to come back that evening when their Satanic Church group would be meeting at their home (which was completely made up.) they never came back.



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A new twist is now they approach you out in the shopping areas. I was at my corner where I'm a crossing guard and I saw a car park a few stores away. The guy got out and approached a few people before he got to me. I saw him coming so I already knew what he was doing.
Just today I was loading my groceries into my car when I saw a woman talking tosome other shoppers in a car a few spots away from mine. It seemed a little odd but I just kept loading my groceries, as I had a lot of them.

I got into my car and that woman came over to my window and started her shtick about Jesus and God. I quickly told her I'm an atheist (which I am) and that ended her shtick very quickly. She politely told me to have a nice day and continued moving through the parking lot. As I was leaving the lot, I saw her doing her shtick with the store's security guard (who, I thought would have evicted her already because it is private property) who was outside.
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.............I got into my car and that woman came over to my window and started her shtick about Jesus and God. I quickly told her I'm an atheist (which I am) and that ended her shtick very quickly. She politely told me to have a nice day and continued moving through the parking lot. As I was leaving the lot, I saw her doing her shtick with the store's security guard (who, I thought would have evicted her already because it is private property) who was outside.
I can sympathize with her. I'm always trying to move people over to Vanguard.
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We get a normal amount of proselytizers at the door. Without fail they leave when I explain I'm not interested and wish them good luck in their next contact. No confrontation, no stress, I'm polite and give them the normal respect due a human.

Read that when asked for a phone number to use as a store member that a local area code and Jenny's number is a safe bet, as someone usually uses it when signing up. (xxx-867-54 oh nieeine). The one time I tried it at Harbor Freight it didn't work, but give it a shot for entertainment!
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