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Old 08-21-2009, 01:34 PM   #21
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Your post Leo fits well with your Andretti quote.

I prefer less excitement and my ideal day is putzing around and visiting with friends. Today I am cleaning out the garage in anticipation of listing my home for sale. I am enjoying it. The weather is nice. I haul out stuff, take pictures for Craigslist, and fill the trash bin. Life is bliss.
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I haul out stuff, take pictures for Craigslist, and fill the trash bin. Life is bliss.
Marge, please be sure the 'stuff' is going into the trash bin and not the woodchipper...
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I'm working my way back into it - so far the wife is cool with me and the oldest going sky-diving (as cool as she can be about such things).
It's a recent development, and I don't want to do anything stupid that screws up the retirement, but I feel the need for some excitement. People deliberately trying to hurt me is off my list, but other than that I'm open to ide
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I miss the adrenaline highs of a good engineering drill set or successfully completing a nasty submarine mission. But I'm not willing to pay the price of getting to those points, nor recovering from them.

I've read (IIRC "Survivor's Club"?) that the most common cause of parachuting deaths today is that first bounce off the landing zone operator error-- failure to open the chute due to being locked into some other maneuver, or target attraction, or cutting too sharply at too low an altitude. The auto-release backups (triggered by minimum altitude) are apparently proving their value.

Going back to jumping would certainly take care of the "What do you DO all day?" and "How do you spend your money?" issues. But I find that surfing 10-footers is more than enough excitement, and pretty much the limit of my capability.

And both of those might be safer than paintball league or NASCAR racing school...
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Your post Leo fits well with your Andretti quote.
I don't know if it's an acquired taste or the result of a personality trait - it might be a chicken or egg first kind of question.

There was definitely a "type" of person attracted to the work. A former co-w*rker, who was also in management, had a ritual of celebrating his birthday by going out to the most dangerous dope corner he could find and making an undercover bust just to prove he could still do "it". It's not that we weren't afraid, it's that we didn't want to be ruled by our fears. One guy overcame his phobia of spiders by buying a pet tarantula.

I'm going to have to touch base with some of these guys and see how they deal with it in retirement.

After retiring I was somewhat tempted by the money that government was throwing around at people like me who were willing to go to dangerous places. There was a moment during a trial run when it was really "exciting" and I started hating myself for being irresponsible and getting killed just as my family was celebrating the end of my career.

A few years into retirement I find that I'm struggling with this. It was easy to be risk averse when my boys were younger, but now, especially with the oldest, it's not that easy.

I'm working on trying to understand the difference between pure fear-driven adrenaline thrill, and fun things that also happen to have some degree of danger. The oldest kid is in his peak macho inspired thrill seeking age and I'm hanging in there with him, but there's a lot of conflict going on. We went snowmobiling, something neither of us is experienced at, and we did go off the trails quite a bit. There were a few times I got concerned for him and that protective vicarious-fear came back at me as I realized I was in the same situation. I found myself backing off on the throttle (something I'm not used to doing) and telling him to do the same.

He thinks he's invincible, but I know he's not, and that reminds me that neither am I. So I have found that caution, fear, responsibility or whatever, is dictating my choices more than I'm used to.

There are risks associated with any activity, but I worry that I've become overly cautious of the risks associated with any activity. Yesterday, while standing in line at the airport I found myself close to a guy about my age who was in a wheelchair. It was a pain for him dealing with the TSA and I started thinking about all the travel I have planned and how difficult it would be to try and do that in a wheelchair. And I was nursing a sore knee caused by getting up wrong while practicing free fall in a wind tunnel, and I started getting nervous about skydiving. I had this whole conversation with myself that eventually led to a temporary stalemate with the voice that said "be careful" countered by the one that said "don't let fear keep you from enjoying life."
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I've read (IIRC "Survivor's Club"?) that the most common cause of parachuting deaths today is that first bounce off the landing zone operator error-- failure to open the chute due to being locked into some other maneuver, or target attraction, or cutting too sharply at too low an altitude. The auto-release backups (triggered by minimum altitude) are apparently proving their value.
Haven't seen that book, might have to get it.

I've been reading up on the topic and this is a quote from The Dropzone.Com's advice to media reporting on accidents.
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What is far more common is that a skydiver makes a mistake landing a perfectly good canopy (39% of the 35 U.S. skydiving deaths in 2002, the most common cause of death), collides with another skydiver in freefall or under his parachute (21% of the 2002 deaths), or fails to respond correctly to a survivable equipment malfunction (12% of the 2002 deaths). (Note: skydivers do carry reserve, or backup, parachutes; a malfunction of the main parachute does not automatically kill the skydiver.) We all like to think that we'll make all the right decisions when the chips are down, but the unfortunate truth is that nearly all skydiving deaths are caused by "pilot error"-a mistake on the part of the skydiver.
I appreciate the value of good training, "train like you fight and you'll fight like you trained". Much of my research is spent looking at schools, their accident rates, etc.
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And both of those might be safer than paintball league or NASCAR racing school...
We already do the first and racing school is on my list under the subtitle: "Really Cool Stuff I Want To Do".
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But I find that surfing 10-footers is more than enough excitement, and pretty much the limit of my capability.
Dude, what about the sharks?



I'm wondering if one man's crazy is another's "oh, that looks like fun". Surfing is not on any of my lists, but if I ever find myself with the opportunity I might give it a whirl. Of course while sitting out there waiting for the wave, at least some energy would be spent trying to see if something was about to munch on feet or arms.
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Wow. I'm humbled by all the great replies. Exercise has been a part of my regimen but stopped recently. Started that first thing today. Working part-time now but no longer the boss...miss people kissing my ass and laughing at my jokes! Now I'm a hired hand.....many nice people but some treat you like a loser. It's very eye opening. Will evaluate my passion....home repairs....maybe renovation is a thing I should do. Also, school and mentoring are great ideas. All the best to all of you.
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Do you miss the excitement any? I went through a period where I was super risk averse (success is collecting the pension for 60 years!) and I found I missed doing "exciting" things.
Apparently I do miss it. As DW said "You will take physical risks but not financial ones." This after I bought the motorcycle and we passed each other on a nearby road and she saw me scraping the floorboard in a turn.

And yeah, I miss the adrenaline rush of hearing the alert tone go off for ME, and going 110 mph through turns that grandmas fear to take at 40. Maybe that's why I think acrobatics in an airplane is fun.

As I said to a friend after a couple glasses of wine on the back porch: "I made sure all the financials were in order, and that DW would be comfortable if I got The Big Ache, but I didn't plan on what to do with me." This is proving to be a far more complex issue.
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Wow. I'm humbled by all the great replies. Exercise has been a part of my regimen but stopped recently. Started that first thing today. Working part-time now but no longer the boss...miss people kissing my ass and laughing at my jokes! Now I'm a hired hand.....many nice people but some treat you like a loser. It's very eye opening. Will evaluate my passion....home repairs....maybe renovation is a thing I should do. Also, school and mentoring are great ideas. All the best to all of you.
I have not made the leap yet, but I'd also strongly recommend you read How to Retire Happy, Wild and Free (Zelinski) and/or Work Less, Live More (Clyatt). I'm also a type A/boss and I believe what you're experiencing is very common. Read somewhere that 'you must have something to retire to, not just from' and I believe it's a critical aspect of retirement, especially for type A's like us. You'll adjust, but it's not easy I suspect, you have to have new goals and interests (please read the books). Best of luck, you can do this...
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Wow. I'm humbled by all the great replies. Exercise has been a part of my regimen but stopped recently. Started that first thing today. Working part-time now but no longer the boss...miss people kissing my ass and laughing at my jokes! Now I'm a hired hand.....many nice people but some treat you like a loser. It's very eye opening. Will evaluate my passion....home repairs....maybe renovation is a thing I should do. Also, school and mentoring are great ideas. All the best to all of you.
If belonging to this forum can mellow me out, then...
All kidding aside, sounds like you have a few options to explore there.

Re environment change, we'll laugh at your jokes (see It's Funny Joke Thursday thread) but most will pass on the other part.
Sorry, that one was hanging very low on the tree.

May I ask what you are doing part time?
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I hit that point pretty early in my retirement and I am not a type A . The thought of endless social activities and luncheons bored me . I took some classes but I still needed something so I started selling on ebay . I started with just things around my house but now I've branched out to other merchandise . I do not do it for the money though the money is nice . I do it for a sense of purpose . I was totally burned out of nursing and needed something else . The thought of volunteering did not do it so here I am almost two years into retirement and an ebay powerseller . Who would have thought it ? I think the clue is to find something you like even if it is not what other people think a retiree should be doing . Some find their niche in hiking or travel or samba dancing for me it's shopping and selling .

If things progress (keeping my fingers crossed) as planned, I should be out of my 9-5 job (after 32 years) in a month or so. I have been too busy getting things in order (selling my business) to think much about "retirement" and all the things that go with it.

I have had some wishful thoughts about something to do part time, to supplement me (still 4 years to early SS) For a short time, years ago, I was an EBay junkie (buyer) I was curious about selling on EBay. Any tips on items to sell and other general tips?

Other job options? Like building birdhouses & selling them along the highway etc.
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Wow. I'm humbled by all the great replies. Exercise has been a part of my regimen but stopped recently. Started that first thing today. Working part-time now but no longer the boss...miss people kissing my ass and laughing at my jokes! Now I'm a hired hand.....many nice people but some treat you like a loser. It's very eye opening. Will evaluate my passion....home repairs....maybe renovation is a thing I should do. Also, school and mentoring are great ideas. All the best to all of you.
drb--I understand exactly what you're feeling. Though I've only been retired a few weeks, I'm already wondering if I made a mistake. I had a very difficult time making the decision to retire...it took me over a year to decide. I was burned out at my job, but now I find I'm often at loose ends and I miss the structure, the challenge, the interaction with my peers. Ugh.
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drb--I understand exactly what you're feeling. Though I've only been retired a few weeks, I'm already wondering if I made a mistake. I had a very difficult time making the decision to retire...it took me over a year to decide. I was burned out at my job, but now I find I'm often at loose ends and I miss the structure, the challenge, the interaction with my peers. Ugh.
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I have not retired yet, but I know I have to be occupied to be happy. Reading these two books gave me great comfort in thinking about retirement, I can't recommend them too highly.
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Other job options? Like building birdhouses & selling them along the highway etc.
Two guys I knew did something like that. Sold fish from the back of a pickup truck along the highway for a couple of years. One got The Big Ache and passed on, and I haven't heard from the other.
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drb--I understand exactly what you're feeling. Though I've only been retired a few weeks, I'm already wondering if I made a mistake. I had a very difficult time making the decision to retire...it took me over a year to decide. I was burned out at my job, but now I find I'm often at loose ends and I miss the structure, the challenge, the interaction with my peers. Ugh.

When I first retired I felt exactly as you did in fact I was tempted to go back to work .After a few months of this I decided I needed to recreate my life first I joined a gym for social contact . I go to water aerobics several times a week and it gets me out of the house ,exercising and gossiping with nice women . We also go out to lunch on Fridays . I also started selling on ebay which keeps me busy and then I started reaching out to my friends and entertaining more . Look for clubs to join or things to do and you will create a new life .It just takes time .
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I have always had too many hobbies to work :0 I would take some classes at the library, check out local college stuff, join some social groups. Or find a job that is so much fun that you forget that you are working!
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