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Old 08-11-2015, 12:55 PM   #61
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+1 on Waze, I use it exclusively retired the TomTom unit. (BTW Google owns Waze)
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:05 PM   #62
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California allows you to mount on windshield in corner, not in the center.

I would imagine other states allow something similar
25 States make it illegal to mount a GPS anywhere on the windshield while 7 states allow mounting in a specific location.

GPS navi on windshield may be illegal in your state
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Lane assist is a great feature when you are in big cities or complicated highways
+1 This feature is extremely useful to me.
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Any idea whether mounting it over the tachometer (what I do) is legal or not? I can still see spedometer, gas gauge, etc., just not the tach.
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Any idea whether mounting it over the tachometer (what I do) is legal or not? I can still see spedometer, gas gauge, etc., just not the tach.
The issue of where you can legally mount as GPS/cell phone varies by state and there is no real rule of thumb that I can find.

That said, it is illegal to mount a gps on the windshield in some states. However I don't believe any state has a law prohibiting mounting these devices on the dash - although some specify dash mounting cannot interfere with the deployment of air bags.

Traffic Talk: Where can a GPS navigation device be placed in a vehicle? | MLive.com

I don't see any issue with mounting it over the tach - but note I'm no lawyer and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
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Any idea whether mounting it over the tachometer (what I do) is legal or not? I can still see spedometer, gas gauge, etc., just not the tach.
My understanding is mounting a GPS on the dash is legal in all states but I'm not 100% sure.
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I doubt people get caught that much.

There are so many other things a cop is looking for before looking to see if you have a GPS on the windshield.

Might not be good if you're pulled over for something else or if you have it parked -- if you would even leave a GPS in a parked car.
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That is one reason that I like having it on the instrument cluster where the tach is. On the window or top of the dash it is more noticeable to thieves, whereas where i put it it is not very noticeable unless someone is looking closely.
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So I just received my new Garmin 2597LMT and took it for a spin. It seems nice except the color saturation looks very faded compared to my old 255W. This makes it hard to read 'on the fly' in bright sunlight.

I like the lane assist, LMT updates, junction view, and current street shown on bottom of screen.

As I can still return/exchange it, does someone have a similar unit with good color saturation they can recommend?

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I have that exact unit, bought about a year and a half ago. Color saturation is fine for me, and it has worked very well on many trips. Granted, if bright sun is hitting the screen directly it washes out, but that's a rare occurrence sitting on my dashboard. I would look at one in a local store to find out if it's just the one you got or if they are all the same.
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Before premium smart phones with IPS and "retina" displays, the Garmins and TomToms probably looked okay to people.

Now they look poor in comparison to phones which use much better displays and other components.
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I have that exact unit, bought about a year and a half ago. Color saturation is fine for me, and it has worked very well on many trips. Granted, if bright sun is hitting the screen directly it washes out, but that's a rare occurrence sitting on my dashboard. I would look at one in a local store to find out if it's just the one you got or if they are all the same.
I have the 2595LMT and it is fine as well.
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I use the Garmin app for IOS that includes having the maps loaded on the iPhone. It's mounted in a cradle on the dash in front of me, within easy reach. Works great, has the same format as my old Nuvi (which I like) and can give directions through the bluetooth speaker that also serves as a handsfree phone and can play media over FM for entertainment. Purchasing the app also gives me map updates at no additional cost. All in all, very happy with a single device serving all those functions.
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Issue with 2597LMT color saturation

Here are 2 images from Amazon.com for the 2597LMT.

The bland gray one (if you replace that red bar across the top with a light gray bar) looks like what I see on my new 2597LMT.

So, basically, it's a sea of gray, which makes it difficult to absorb info while driving at a quick glance since it all sort of runs together.

Perhaps there's a setting I've missed. Does anyone know if there's some way to make my unit's display look like the colorful one below?

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As I understand it, some (most?) smart-phone GPS apps will need a data connection to do turn-by-turn navigation, or to recalculate a route (they access the computers in the cloud to figure that out). The GPS alone can show you where you are though. And NW-Bound showed how to cache a map.

But apps like OSM, Co-Pilot (mentioned below), and maybe a few others run the phone just like a GPS with no cell connection. Full turn-by-turn, route re-calc, etc.

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We spent the weekend in the city and at near last minute, I was looking to update the off-line google maps on my tablet (a cheap Acer that has built in GPS), so I could use that if we needed (I found out that my old stand-alone GPS battery has died, can only use it in the car).

Using Google maps off-line is tedious, so I googled for suggestions, and found a lot of people recommending a Nokia app "Here", for off-line maps and navigation. Minutes before we left, I downloaded it and an Illinois map (all free), and had almost no time to read up on it, and I got it doing all I needed w/o too much head scratching. Overall, I was very impressed. It's fast, and has all sorts of info in the map file. I was able to find all the restaurants and other places we were looking for w/o a data connection at all.

I need to invest a little time reading up on it, but so far, much easier to use than the OSMand app (Open Street Maps and Navigation) I had tried.

iOS and Android:

https://pages.here.com/app/#

I just saw that another poster ( Nunthewiser ) mentioned "Here" (an unfortunate app name, too common to google/search - surprised they didn't think of that).

which gps to buy.

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Just downloaded Here, thanks ERD50. Got the Washington map and looks like it has all the dirt roads I took my motorcycle on this past summer (and was lost some of the time).
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My issue with smart phone apps for use in driving is that the phone isn't large enough to provide an image easily usable by a driver. I love our Garman, it can't be beat for city driving.
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My issue with smart phone apps for use in driving is that the phone isn't large enough to provide an image easily usable by a driver. I love our Garman, it can't be beat for city driving.
That's why I like using my tablet with built-in GPS and 8" screen, and then I take it into the hotel, and I've got a reasonable browser/email reader on hotel wifi.

I just need to come up with a decent mount in the car.

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My phone always seems to go into sleep mode at the most inopportune time. And really, is the cost of a Garmin or TomTom going to put most of us out of our spending limit?? I have both, can afford both and the Garmin is a heck of a lot more convenient and useful than my smart phone is.
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My phone always seems to go into sleep mode at the most inopportune time. And really, is the cost of a Garmin or TomTom going to put most of us out of our spending limit?? I have both, can afford both and the Garmin is a heck of a lot more convenient and useful than my smart phone is.
These apps let you keep the display active.

It's not about cost for me. If one device can do multiple things, that's convenient. And if an app runs on Android and iOS, I can get familiar with one, and use it on multiple devices. I kind of doubt I'll replace the battery in my old GPS, not when I have these convenient options.

And my tablet screen is bigger than most GPS I've seen, so that's another advantage. Or, I could switch to a smartphone if I don;t want to carry the tablet, and trade the smaller screen for portability. Flexible.

How many GPSs would you need to buy to cover those options? The price would add up at that point.

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