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Old 05-01-2016, 08:52 PM   #41
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Yeah I have to say I read that as a kid and I wondered about it.

I specifically recall diagrams to complete an "X" cut out of the fang marks and then sucking the venom through the X cuts.
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I recall reading about how you have to suck the venom out to help the victim.

What is the anti venom availability and cost?

Presumably pretty common in the West?

Some other types of snake anti-venoms are suppose to be really expensive because it's difficult to produce.
Neighbor who got bit on the hand in his courtyard said ER really wanted to see a photo of the snake to verify pit viper as it cost $45,000 to mix up a batch of anti-venom. He was covered by Medicare plus retired Federal employee.

We carry the Sawyer Extractor kit. Only used it for insect stings though. http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Extract...yer+snake+bite
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Yikes!

I thought it was only exotic snakes in developing countries which had such expensive anti-venom.

Well that dampens my enthusiasm for hiking in the wild even more.
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Good to see that the lady came through the snakebite ok. Sorry for the dog though. I've had several rattler encounters in Arizona. The craziest was a 4-5 footer sitting in my driveway when I took the garbage out. I never provoke them - the tv news said that most rattlesnake bites happen to 16-25 year old males. Probably due to provocation.


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My horse got bit by a rattlesnake while I was riding him in 2012. He spent a week at the vet clinic. It was a very scary situation. My friend rode at breakneck speed back to the trailer while I had to lead my horse out of the woods. I didn't have enough cell signal to make a phone call but was able to text my husband who in turn called my vet. Hubby relayed instructions to me which saved much time and possibly my horse.

Took the horse a good year to fully recover. He experienced cardiac issues right after the bite and wasn't quite right for at least a year.

My friend is a photo journalist who documented the treatment at the vet clinic. She also wrote an article that appeared in Arabian Horse World magazine.
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Wow! So what was your vet bil that year?
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OMG...snakes are the creepiest of all the animals. Thanks god the young lady survived!
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I live in Northern California, and I've come across 2 rattlesnakes in my backyard and one rattlesnake in the front yard of a different house. Even though 2 of them were coiled up because we were trying to capture/kill them, not one of the 3 gave any warning rattle. I'm beginning to think this may be an evolutionary change--the ones that rattle get killed, and the ones that are silent are able to bite and slip away.
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I live in Northern California, and I've come across 2 rattlesnakes in my backyard and one rattlesnake in the front yard of a different house. Even though 2 of them were coiled up because we were trying to capture/kill them, not one of the 3 gave any warning rattle. I'm beginning to think this may be an evolutionary change--the ones that rattle get killed, and the ones that are silent are able to bite and slip away.
After about 10 encounters in Arizona, I have yet to have one rattle at me. All encounters were 5-10' away from the snake. I read somewhere that they are changing their habits by not rattling.
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I read somewhere that they are changing their habits by not rattling.
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Yup, they 'serpently' are.
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Here is the one 2' from my garage door. Scared the hell out of me. I thought it was dead. I brought the garbage can to the curb and came back a minute later - it was turned with its head facing me. I didn't get that photo - I panicked and left in the car.
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That's very distressing! Poor dog! I'd rather have a Snakebite (drink) at the local pub. Half Guinness Stout and half Angry Orchard cider.
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My vet bill was just shy of $1000. I thought that quite reasonable for a weeks stay at the resort.

I forgot to mention in my post that I'm glad the lady in the picture survived but sorry that the dog didn't.'

I have since come across a rattler sunning itself on the road in front of my house. That snake is no longer with us. I live in the middle of the Shawnee National Forest in southern Illinois. There is a road here that they close every spring and fall for the reptilian (mainly snake) migration.
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OMG...snakes are the creepiest of all the animals. Thanks god the young lady survived!
Not even close! Take a parasitology class and you'll start seeing snakes as sweet, cuddly critters.

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After about 10 encounters in Arizona, I have yet to have one rattle at me. All encounters were 5-10' away from the snake. I read somewhere that they are changing their habits by not rattling.
Humans have done a good job of getting rid of the ones that rattle in warning.
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They do taste great.

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A couple of years ago my daughter said there's a snake in her bedroom. "Really?" I said, and went to look. It turned out a live coral snake was under her bed. That's the stuff of nightmares. What if she had stepped on it during the night? How did it get into the house? Coral snakes are one of the deadliest, though few people are bit, due to the small mouth. So I captured it and put it in a bucket, and left it on the back porch. I wasn't exactly sure what to do with it. The next morning I found something came during the night and ate it, leaving just the head.

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I've seen various versions of this story going back to 4/17. Same photo involved.
From a south Tx farmer on Ag forum:
He was with his wife, daughter, and dog posing for family pictures on their ranch. They were standing close to a large prickly pear cactus. A rattlesnake came out and was about to strike the woman, and so the dog lunged to protect her. The dog was then bitten. In the process of the man grabbing his dog to pull it back, the snake struck him as well.

The dog died over night. Right now the man is in the ICU unit at a San Antonio hospital. He's facing the possibility of losing a leg.
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