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06-20-2017, 08:25 AM
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Southwest heat wave
Looking at the temperatures lately, especially in the Phoenix area, I can't even imagine how I would deal with it (except to get out of town).
Since we have several Phoenicians here, I wonder if you have any things you do (apart from staying indoors) to deal with 120°F or thereabouts?
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06-20-2017, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by braumeister
Since we have several Phoenicians here, I wonder if you have any things you do (apart from staying indoors) to deal with 120°F or thereabouts?
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If you get no replies it is likely because their keyboards are too hot to touch.
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06-20-2017, 08:27 AM
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A bunch of them went to Europe for the heat spell, they were on my cruise.
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06-20-2017, 08:43 AM
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Lived in PHX AZ since I was 4 years old.... I did not have AC in my car until I graduated from collage and got my first "real" job. I was playing golf of the hottest day on record 122-deg in June 1990 when they grounded all the planes.. So you can say I'm use to the heat, but the older I get it does take more of a toll on you... What do I do on days like this at my age? Other then visit ER forum? Not much you can do. It is even too hot to hang by the pool during the day. Basically you are force to move all outdoor activities to evening time when it cool down to 110-deg by 8pm Some times we go to malls to walk around and people watch, but that gets boring for me after awhile. Another popular place to beat the heat during the day is at the casinos on the reservations. They have some really nice one now.... I still would rather have the heat vs snow and it is really only bad for 3-4 months of the year and the rest of the year is perfect. We will always have a home in AZ, but I do see us living those hot months somewhere up north as we get older... Besides it is a dry heat
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06-20-2017, 09:14 AM
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I remind myself that humans are one of the most heat tolerant mammals (i.e. the naked ape).
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06-20-2017, 09:30 AM
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Not big planes. They cancelled small Bombardier type planes. But Boeing or Airbus big planes can withstand higher heat, like up to 126 degree, IIRC.
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06-20-2017, 09:49 AM
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I'm not an aeronautical engineer, I got a Gentleman's C in that part of the Physics Course.....but what is it that would make it difficult to fly in high temps ??
Is it the density of the air ?? Lack of lift ?? Potential for dangerous thunderstorms ??
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06-20-2017, 09:51 AM
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We are hot too, although not AZ hot. The central valley of CA has been over 100 for the last 4 days and predicted to be 4 more.
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06-20-2017, 10:02 AM
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Yeah, it's indoor season here. 113 yesterday, 114 today. We do our chores and shopping before 9am, and hibernate the rest of the day. 1% relative humidity a few days ago, that was unique.
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06-20-2017, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveDriver
I'm not an aeronautical engineer, I got a Gentleman's C in that part of the Physics Course.....but what is it that would make it difficult to fly in high temps ??
Is it the density of the air ?? Lack of lift ?? Potential for dangerous thunderstorms ??
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Mostly lack of thrust - less mass than you'd like to suck through a turbofan.
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06-20-2017, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveDriver
I'm not an aeronautical engineer, I got a Gentleman's C in that part of the Physics Course.....but what is it that would make it difficult to fly in high temps ??
Is it the density of the air ?? Lack of lift ?? Potential for dangerous thunderstorms ??
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Got a quick google explanation (better than any Physics professor's) and yes it's a combination of all those factors....but it's mainly about the Lift & Thrust. Hot Air is Less Dense and doesn't generate the Lift needed to get off the ground. Once off the ground, an airplane also needs to meet the "one engine out" flight characteristics. Phoenix Airport is at some altitude, and at 1100 feet that's a consideration.
Are there mountains to climb over after takeoff ??
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06-20-2017, 10:12 AM
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Yes, too hot to fly:
https://www.rt.com/usa/393210-phoeni...ancelled-heat/
Not enough lift...
I was living in Phoenix in 1987, when it was 122 (I think that's still the record.). Many flights cancelled that day, too...
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06-20-2017, 10:15 AM
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Arizona here. Yeah, it's damn hot. However, the humidity is less than 10%. I was in Playa Del Carmen, MX last week. It was 90 F and 80% humidity. We sweated walking two blocks to a restaurant!
I'll take the dry- mosquito free- heat any time.
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06-20-2017, 10:22 AM
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I've been in Phoenix several times in the summer when temps were above 115. Once at 120. We spent a lot of those afternoons at the movie theatre. I stay out of Phoenix in the summer now.
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06-20-2017, 11:08 AM
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We go to Palm Springs in the summer when it can be 110-120. We like to get up before 7 and do some exercise- walk the dog, bike ride, or tennis - and be home by 9-9:30. Then spend the day in the pool reading and relaxing. Then have dinner under the misters, which many homes and restaurants have installed to keep the heat down. I agree that dry desert heat is much more comfortable than 90 degree humidity. Lived in Houston for 10 years and don't miss that climate at all.
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06-20-2017, 11:10 AM
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Phoenix - Valley of the Sun
More like "surface of the sun"...
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06-20-2017, 12:31 PM
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I'm here! Played golf this am...teed of at 7:00am and it was 88 degrees. Quick round and back home by 10:15am. Temp was 104. Fortunately we have trees for shade at our course.
Won't leave the house the rest of the day. My GF and I call it a "snow day". 115 in June is better than 110 in August as the humidity right now is very low. Once the monsoon arrives it is worse. We will bolt for most of July and all of August to cooler climates.
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06-20-2017, 01:56 PM
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My oldest sister(this is the brother in law, Mr Know it all, that i dislike), told me its a dry heat. She lives in some 55 + community in Tuscon. Her first summer there she fainted from the heat going from her home to her car. Yeah that ruled out that destination. But everything they have is the best, so i guess its a good faint, the humid faint in NYC that i would experience would be a terrible faint. hahahah
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06-20-2017, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by braumeister
Looking at the temperatures lately, especially in the Phoenix area, I can't even imagine how I would deal with it (except to get out of town).
Since we have several Phoenicians here, I wonder if you have any things you do (apart from staying indoors) to deal with 120°F or thereabouts?
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It's supposed to be 105 tomorrow and 108 Thursday down here. OMG it's June! Last year we had a few 106 days in August, and that was the hottest it had ever been!
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