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Old 11-25-2015, 04:47 PM   #381
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Another step in the exciting saga of private space exploration! Blue Origin Beats SpaceX In Landing Reusable Rocket | Popular Science

Having Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk slugging it out can only lead to good things for my future as an irascible old asteroid prospector.
When I watched the video I thought I was watching a 1950's space TV series. Great accomplishment IMO. Very hard to do...right.
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Elon Musk and the folks at SpaceX did it - launched satellites and returned the first stage to the launch site for a safe landing.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovati...losion-n483921
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That was incredible! Wish I was back in Florida for the live launch and landing, but got stuck up north for some holiday stuff.
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It was amazing. Should dramatically change the economics of launch vehicles. DIL is Space X employee and she is stoked.

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It was amazing. Should dramatically change the economics of launch vehicles. DIL is Space X employee and she is stoked.

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That's great! I watched the live feed, and the Space X employees were REALLY happy. It's not easy to get that many engineers jumping, dancing around, and hugging.
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Score another few points for the disrupters.

I wonder how much a 'refurbished' first stage costs?



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I clapped along with the SpaceX employees. What a remarkable achievement, especially for young private company, started by an immigrant.
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A perfect time for launch, too. Prime time, night launch. And the employees could work until 7:00 or so, then hit the launch party. Wonder if they served beer
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I really enjoyed watching the reaction of the SpaceX employees. Seeing these modern young energetic people who have accomplished so much in their young lives fills me with hope and anticipation for the future.

They may not all be males dressed in white shirts and ties, but they share the brains, creativity and enthusiasm that put humans into space and our robots onto other planets. It's inspiring.
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Score another few points for the disrupters.

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That's the big question. $60 million investment in current Falcon 9. $200,000 for new fuel. The rest of costs are estimates.

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Phenomenal accomplishment ...not as grand a goal as NASA set for itself with its many variations of returnable components, but this will form basis for being able to do it in a repeatable fashion with larger boosters and payloads.

We are kinda stuck at LEO until some black swan event occurs wrt propulsive technologies.

BTW - while NASA gets the glory, just like the AF does when "they" launch something, most of the work, including development, engineering, production, etc, is done by American industry - under contract. Kinda like the Navy building ships - they don't, but they do hire American industry to do it for them.
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Phenomenal accomplishment ...not as grand a goal as NASA set for itself with its many variations of returnable components, but this will form basis for being able to do it in a repeatable fashion with larger boosters and payloads.

We are kinda stuck at LEO until some black swan event occurs wrt propulsive technologies.

BTW - while NASA gets the glory, just like the AF does when "they" launch something, most of the work, including development, engineering, production, etc, is done by American industry - under contract. Kinda like the Navy building ships - they don't, but they do hire American industry to do it for them.

True, but LEO is where we need tot be in order to perfect various technologies. We will go back to the moon and Mars soon enough.


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Sorry...would have responded earlier, but been out of town.

I'm not sure what propulsive tech can be developed at LEO that can't be developed on Earth.

And, sadly, I believe the Chinese will be next back to the moon ...the US goal of going to Mars is admirable, but not likely to happen if we continue to insist on bringing the folks we send there, back.

NASA also does not have and is not likely to ever get enough budget to address Mars for real ...it would need to at least double for 10 years.
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SpaceX has created an edited video of the landing.

It never gets old watching this. I also think this has to be the ultimate recruiting video. Hell I'd come out of retirement if I could work there.

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The next launch will attempt to land the Falcon 9 first stage on the barge again. Apparently, some launches either require so much fuel they can't get back to land, or the direction they take precludes getting back to land. Thus the need to be able to land the rocket on a barge. Given the accuracy they have shown, the biggest problem will probably be keeping the barge steady.

http://www.gizmag.com/spacex-falcon-...landing/41255/
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Maybe. But do remember they are well known for long working hours. Typically 16 hour days 7 days a week when trying to hit deadlines, which is pretty often.
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Maybe. But do remember they are well known for long working hours. Typically 16 hour days 7 days a week when trying to hit deadlines, which is pretty often.
You are right, and it would be a lot easier at 26 than 56, but maybe for a year or so. Realistically, I have a better shot of winning the Powerball lottery than getting hired.

Still, it would be cool to be part of such an amazing company.

Update. A teacher friend of mine said she was going to show this to her 6th graders.
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DIL works there. Work life balance - not so much.

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Maybe. But do remember they are well known for long working hours. Typically 16 hour days 7 days a week when trying to hit deadlines, which is pretty often.
Yep. Also you can hit a glitch and do the hurry up and wait. Two years working on other stuff, Skylab, etc while Mars got back to the right spot.

We weren't ready the first time.

heh heh heh - Wish I was young again to do another 30 years.
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The next launch will attempt to land the Falcon 9 first stage on the barge again. Apparently, some launches either require so much fuel they can't get back to land, or the direction they take precludes getting back to land. Thus the need to be able to land the rocket on a barge. Given the accuracy they have shown, the biggest problem will probably be keeping the barge steady.

SpaceX to try another Falcon 9 sea-barge landing
It takes less fuel to launch at the equator because the earth is moving faster there. That is the ideal launch site.
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