Super Tuesday Poll

donheff · 02-05-2008, 09:37 AM

How about a poll to see how close the ER forum comes to the actual voters? Simply choose one of the six and we can compare to the actual spread.

ronin · 02-05-2008, 09:59 AM

I'm a decline to stater. In the CA primary, I can get a dem or am indep ballot. Normally I'd take the opposite side of what my wife votes to cancel her out

. But she hasn't decided. So I will only vote the props.

What I think we need is a combo of prop 92 and 94-97. Just put the indian slots directly on the community college campuses and lower the gambling age to 18. That way the students can have a shot at tuition and book money directly.

bright eyed · 02-05-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ronin

What I think we need is a combo of prop 92 and 94-97. Just put the indian slots directly on the community college campuses and lower the gambling age to 18. That way the students can have a shot at tuition and book money directly.

you're hilarious - i'm so sick of those gaming prop commercials!

TromboneAl · 02-05-2008, 11:12 AM

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So I will only vote the props.

This year the props are especially difficult to make heads or tails of. Can you imagine how most uninformed voters deal with these? Bad system.

free4now · 02-05-2008, 12:34 PM

With all the talk on this board about the need for Universal Healthcare, I'm surprised Obama is leading Clinton, given that Clinton is the UHC candidate.

calmloki · 02-05-2008, 01:41 PM

Thanks for the chance to vote for Ron Paul - where my not voting for someone else doesn't matter. Against some of his views (abortion for instance), but it's good to see a gadfly.

Walt34 · 02-05-2008, 02:21 PM

You forgot "None of the above".

donheff · 02-05-2008, 02:47 PM

Interesting how much higher Obama is polling than Clinton here. That contrasts significantly with the national polls but they are always a little behind the momentum - I bet Obama does better than expected. Also interesting that the Dem/GOP split is nearly 50/50 (so far). And a lot you conservatives are always complaining about the left bias on this board. No foundation - just like the complaints about the liberal media.

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With all the talk on this board about the need for Universal Healthcare, I'm surprised Obama is leading Clinton, given that Clinton is the UHC candidate.

Not much light between them even on this topic. There are a lot of us here who wish we could get a single payer health care system like any sensible society but we understand that no one will campaign on that. Clinton isn't calling for true universal health care just universal insurance. Obama says he wants the same but wouldn't mandate coverage to the point of garnishing wages. The ultimate proposal (assuming the dems win) will undoubtedly be some compromise.

Notmuchlonger · 02-05-2008, 03:03 PM

Im really torn on my choice. I need to decide tonight too

donheff · 02-05-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger

Im really torn on my choice. I need to decide tonight too

Get it down to two possible choices. Assign one to heads and one to tails. Flip a coin and while it is still in the air you will know which way you want it to land -- that is your choice.

Goonie · 02-05-2008, 05:10 PM

For me the choice was as easy as ABC!

figner · 02-05-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin

I'm a decline to stater. In the CA primary, I can get a dem or am indep ballot. Normally I'd take the opposite side of what my wife votes to cancel her out

. But she hasn't decided. So I will only vote the props.

Ok, I've puzzled over this statement for several minutes and still can't figure out why anyone would want to vote just to vote the opposite of their spouse. Could you explain, or were you kidding?

cute fuzzy bunny · 02-05-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TromboneAl

This year the props are especially difficult to make heads or tails of. Can you imagine how most uninformed voters deal with these? Bad system.

Just said that to my wife the other day. With the ability to look into ALL of the info and pro's/con's, I formed a rather different opinion about the props than I'd gotten from the voter info booklets, tv ads and mailings.

Its disappointing to see how much the average person is manipulated come election time.

Texas Proud · 02-06-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by donheff

Also interesting that the Dem/GOP split is nearly 50/50 (so far). And a lot you conservatives are always complaining about the left bias on this board. No foundation - just like the complaints about the liberal media.

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AHHHHHHH... even the media did a story on the left leaning of the media... IIRC, something like 95% of them voted Dem about 8 or 12 years ago...

Kind of hard to dispute that left lean if this is even close to true...

jambo101 · 02-06-2008, 04:48 AM

So who won??

donheff · 02-06-2008, 08:36 AM

It appears we overestimated both Obama's and McCain's pull. The pundits say that highly educated people lean to Obama and independents to McCain so maybe we are overrepresented in both categories. The other possibility is we reflected the momentum of both candidates in our choices but with early voters and the unregistered newbies that momentum wasn't yet reflected in the results

FIRE'd@51 · 02-06-2008, 09:05 AM

I find it interesting that, despite all the opinion polls on Iraq, each party's leading candidate in delegates is the most hawkish (within his/her party) on the Iraq war.

ronin · 02-06-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by figner

Ok, I've puzzled over this statement for several minutes and still can't figure out why anyone would want to vote just to vote the opposite of their spouse. Could you explain, or were you kidding?

It's an inside joke between us as we often take opposite sides of the slates and find out we might as well have stayed home. So I ask her who she is supporting and teasingly tell her I'm going to cancel her vote. In reality I got a Dem ballot and did just that. Not to be mean to her though.

On another note, at the poll there was an older lady going off on the workers because they gave her a Dem ballot. She was actually registered Dem, but apparently didn't want to be. Maybe she was unclear on the concept, but man was she raising a ruckus over it.

cute fuzzy bunny · 02-06-2008, 12:06 PM

I'm just unclear on why it'd be considered rocket science to just give EVERYONE a ballot that would let them vote for ANY of the candidates.

Of course, I thought I was smart to register "unaffiliated" to avoid being pestered by party telemarketers.

Instead I was barred from voting for the candidate I decided I liked, and pestered by independent voter telemarketers.

Much better.

SecondCor521 · 02-06-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FIRE'd@51

I find it interesting that, despite all the opinion polls on Iraq, each party's leading candidate in delegates is the most hawkish (within his/her party) on the Iraq war.

Is this accurate?

On the Democratic side, I believe Hillary is leading Barack in the delegate count at the moment. I also thought she wanted to pull the troops out ASAP, whereas Barack was wanting a pullout by late 2009.

I could be wrong on any of those three points, thou

View Poll Results: Who would you vote for"
Clinton	13	15.66%
Obama	30	36.14%
Romney	8	9.64%
McCain	21	25.30%
Huckabee	6	7.23%
Paul	5	6.02%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

02-05-2008, 09:37 AM	#1
donheff Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,694	Super Tuesday Poll How about a poll to see how close the ER forum comes to the actual voters? Simply choose one of the six and we can compare to the actual spread. __________________ Every man is, or hopes to be, an Idler. -- Samuel Johnson

02-05-2008, 09:59 AM	#2
ronin Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 442	I'm a decline to stater. In the CA primary, I can get a dem or am indep ballot. Normally I'd take the opposite side of what my wife votes to cancel her out . But she hasn't decided. So I will only vote the props. What I think we need is a combo of prop 92 and 94-97. Just put the indian slots directly on the community college campuses and lower the gambling age to 18. That way the students can have a shot at tuition and book money directly. __________________ a surfer who hasn't wised up to the importance of hard shoes....

02-05-2008, 02:21 PM	#7
Walt34 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: WV Panhandle Posts: 1,222	You forgot "None of the above". __________________ Retired six years ago at age 52

02-05-2008, 05:10 PM	#11
Goonie Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,115	For me the choice was as easy as ABC! __________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss - Retired April 2007 @ 50 with COLA'd DB Pension plus Lifetime Medical & Dental Insurance.

02-05-2008, 12:34 PM	#5
free4now Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,010	With all the talk on this board about the need for Universal Healthcare, I'm surprised Obama is leading Clinton, given that Clinton is the UHC candidate.

02-05-2008, 01:41 PM	#6
calmloki Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Independence Posts: 1,422	Thanks for the chance to vote for Ron Paul - where my not voting for someone else doesn't matter. Against some of his views (abortion for instance), but it's good to see a gadfly.

02-05-2008, 03:03 PM	#9
Notmuchlonger Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,992	Im really torn on my choice. I need to decide tonight too

02-06-2008, 04:48 AM	#15
jambo101 Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 571	So who won?? __________________ "Second star to the right and straight on till morning"

02-06-2008, 08:36 AM	#16
donheff Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,694	It appears we overestimated both Obama's and McCain's pull. The pundits say that highly educated people lean to Obama and independents to McCain so maybe we are overrepresented in both categories. The other possibility is we reflected the momentum of both candidates in our choices but with early voters and the unregistered newbies that momentum wasn't yet reflected in the results __________________ Every man is, or hopes to be, an Idler. -- Samuel Johnson

02-06-2008, 09:05 AM	#17
FIRE'd@51 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,056	I find it interesting that, despite all the opinion polls on Iraq, each party's leading candidate in delegates is the most hawkish (within his/her party) on the Iraq war.

02-06-2008, 12:06 PM	#19
cute fuzzy bunny Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Losing my whump Posts: 22,527	I'm just unclear on why it'd be considered rocket science to just give EVERYONE a ballot that would let them vote for ANY of the candidates. Of course, I thought I was smart to register "unaffiliated" to avoid being pestered by party telemarketers. Instead I was barred from voting for the candidate I decided I liked, and pestered by independent voter telemarketers. Much better. __________________ Many an optimist has become rich by buying out a pessimist