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Old 12-07-2007, 11:49 AM   #21
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I agree with you on XP vs. Vista, but I'm pretty sure all the major manufacturers have rolled to Vista for their new machines so I think T-Al's stuck unless he wants to install an old copy of XP he might have lying around.
Surprisingly enough, XP was an option, and that's what I got.

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Old 12-07-2007, 12:52 PM   #22
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Wow, I'm glad for you. In my job I work with both and I think Vista might become more stable than XP in, oh, maybe a year. It's still bloatware, though, no matter what else they do with it.


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This is probably a little late for Al, but those of you who are looking for a cheap laptop. This looks pretty good:

Even BETTER! Compaq C714NR Dual core laptop $399 starting Sunday 12/9 at Best Buy!
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:38 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by WanderALot View Post
This is probably a little late for Al, but those of you who are looking for a cheap laptop. This looks pretty good:

Even BETTER! Compaq C714NR Dual core laptop $399 starting Sunday 12/9 at Best Buy!
Good suggestion, but the pricing varies from state to state. Also, it's sold out online and the BB in my area are also sold out.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:44 PM   #25
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Yep, as soon as these are announced, a lot of people go buy them and wait for the price drop, then bring them in for a price match. Or if they lock them up in the back until the sale, theres a line out the front door an hour before opening.

I havent put my hands on a compaq recently, but they were pretty much relegated to HP's low end product line some time ago and the build quality wasnt always that great nor the components too super. For $399 it's a nice deal though.

Al got a better processor, better video, more memory, and probably a bit better screen and customer support.

Not surprising, theres a big backlash on vista. Dell plans to continue offering XP for at least a while longer and IBM just rolled out a whole new thinkpad series which only comes with XP unless you specifically call and ask for vista to be installed.

With the very latest patches (like as of 2 weeks ago) my vista installs annoyance factor has barely dipped below the "throw it out and install XP" threshold. I finally got vista versions of most of the s/w I had, the drivers for the h/w on my laptop seem to have matured enough...but its slow compared to XP.

I understand that the new XP service pack 3 tweaks and tunes produce some benchmark results that are 30% faster than vista in the same hardware.

For anyone who just cant stand it and wants to take the leap, I'd strongly recommend a dual processor machine with 2GB of ram and a 7200rpm disk drive. It'll run on a single cpu/1gb/5400rpm machine, but its really a slog.

About the only really nice thing about Vista I've found is the pop up you get when anything tries to perform a system function, install or remove software, etc. All that now requires permission. I was completely unimpressed with the Aeroglass feature and its huge performance demands and ended up turning it off.

This might be a good one to skip. The next version of windows, based on this same kernel/architecture, has all the stuff in it that vista was supposed to have but ended up getting peeled out to get the product out the door.

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