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Old 08-19-2009, 06:49 PM   #21
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I'd take a few practice for retirement days (Formerly known as mental health days ).
Probably get someone here on FIRE working in the medical field to write you a note...
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:06 PM   #22
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It's definitely a bad policy, but if it were me I wouldn't use them because it wouldn't be worth the guilt. Not saying anyone should feel guilty, just that I would if it were me and so it wouldn't be worth it.

I would feel ok about setting up extra dr's appointments and such if there's any reason to do that.
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If you don't feel right about taking sick leave because you aren't sick, then you shouldn't do it. Somewhere in your posting I sense the need to exit your job and make a statement about work ethic.

You should do as you planned, your boss will remember your actions, even if your co-workers don't. As others have said, sick leave is a benefit and designed to be there if you need it. You've won the health care lottery and you don't need it. Congratulations!

I'm sure that there are other benefits you've earned that you will never use as well. Good for you!

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I have a co-worker whose sometimes once a week doctor's appointments typically coincides with everyone else's work at home day, Fridays, Mondays, or the time when he needed to stand in line for concert tickets which he accidentally let slip a few days after his doctor's appointments. Your coworkers are not morons. They will figure out that you're slacking. Why give yourself a bad rep?
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So do I take the high road and just let all those sick days go to waste (there is no incentive not to use them) when I leave?
Think ahead to the month after you've started your ER. (Go ahead, we'll wait here until you're ready to rejoin the discussion.) How would you feel during that month? "Gosh, I'm really glad I took the high road and donated all my extra sick leave to those folks" or "Crap, I can't believe I didn't use a few more of those sick days!"

That's the feeling you'll likely have for the rest of your ER, so choose accordingly.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:41 AM   #27
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Opinion seems to be split pretty evenly.

I can't really see myself changing my values dramatically so I'll likely take a day here or there over the next six months but for the most part I see myself forfeiting all those sick days...sigh. But I will feel better about myself if I don't abuse the system...and who knows, it may actually sink in with one or two of the people who work here...nah...probably not.

On the bright side...I'm retiring!!!!!!
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But I will feel better about myself if I don't abuse the system...and who knows, it may actually sink in with one or two of the people who work here...nah...probably not.

On the bright side...I'm retiring!!!!!!
Hey, its a win-win situation! Enjoy

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Old 08-20-2009, 01:40 PM   #29
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... I feel like it would be wrong to call in sick when not sick but then also feel like a chump for not using benefits I earned....
You are probably making the right choice. Nobody is going to call you a chump. Going forward you might consider being a little more liberal in taking days off; just stay well short of the guilt line.

Had a coworker once take a morning off because thunderstorms woke her up and she said she didn not get enough sleep. Can see where that might be a valid reason in some professions, but not in this case.
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I worked with a young pretty single woman who would call in sick two or three days in a row several times a year because she had gas.
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I worked with a young pretty single woman who would call in sick two or three days in a row several times a year because she had gas.
I retired for similar medical reasons.
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This is why I prefer companies having PTO.
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I worked with a young pretty single woman who would call in sick two or three days in a row several times a year because she had gas.

Waaaiit a second, can I get short term disability for this?
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This is why I prefer companies having PTO.
Exactly. You get X number of days per year. If you are really bad off, take short term disability.
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Waaaiit a second, can I get short term disability for this?
After what I heard about you guys and the bathrooms at your office, please, for the love of all that is good in the world...take time off when you have gas!

I think Chaos is making the right choice, just take enough to feel like you are using them for reasonable reasons and then revel in the fact that you won't have to worry about it in...just 6 SHORT MONTHS!
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Not to hijack the thread but it's interesting to hear the various sick-time policies represented here. My mega corp expected us to be at work unless we were truly sick. We got time off as needed for sickness/hospitalization Dr./Dentist, etc. However, the policy also included an expectation that one would not miss more than a given % of time within a year. Exceeding this % could cost a promotion or raise. Over time, the percentage shrunk from 4% to 2%. At one time, single absences due to significant (and documented) illness/injury were not treated as "harshly". However, toward the end of my c@reer, the company always pointed to its ever shrinking absents rate (about 1.5%) and expected folks to get with the program. So, during cold and flu season, my work group often sounded like a TB ward. Everyone got sick - just sick enough to make everyone else sick. But, by George, we didn't miss much work. Folks used vacation time for Dr. visits and even operations. So, once I knew that I wouldn't need to worry about a raise or promo for the next year, heh, heh, I have to admit to playing "hookey" a couple of days. 'Course, I also worked on my portfolio, check book and other personal stuff at my desk that last few months too. I almost hoped someone would say something about my attendance or work "ethic", but they never did.
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After what I heard about you guys and the bathrooms at your office, please, for the love of all that is good in the world...take time off when you have gas!
This should gross you out. One guy here who is notorious for flatulence issues would run into a female coworker's office, drop a stink bomb, laugh, then run out. That, my friends, crosses a line. Jovial jesting a la Larry Curly Moe is ok, but farting in another's personal workspace repeatedly and with knowledge that the ventilation is poor is simply malicious.
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Not making this up. Years ago, at the headquarters of a national convenience store chain, the place used some modular offices that had columns of holes in the walls for hanging shelving. A couple of guys -- I dunno what they had for lunch -- but it must have been pretty bad. The lady in the adjoining office actually made a complaint to HR and the boss had to call them in and counsel them for the unacceptable level of flatulence.

I sat in the office next to the boss and knew something was "up" because he rarely closed his door, but he did for this conversation. The two guys said the boss could hardly keep a straight face. I can imagine. Wonder how this was written up by HR.

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Not making this up. Years ago, at the headquarters of a national convenience store chain, the place used some modular offices that had columns of holes in the walls for hanging shelving. A couple of guys -- I dunno what they had for lunch -- but it must have been pretty bad. The lady in the adjoining office actually made a complaint to HR and the boss had to call them in and counsel them for the unacceptable level of flatulence.

I sat in the office next to the boss and knew something was "up" because he rarely closed his door, but he did for this conversation. The two guys said the boss could hardly keep a straight face. I can imagine. Wonder how this was written up by HR.
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Not making this up. Years ago, at the headquarters of a national convenience store chain, the place used some modular offices that had columns of holes in the walls for hanging shelving. A couple of guys -- I dunno what they had for lunch -- but it must have been pretty bad. The lady in the adjoining office actually made a complaint to HR and the boss had to call them in and counsel them for the unacceptable level of flatulence.

I sat in the office next to the boss and knew something was "up" because he rarely closed his door, but he did for this conversation. The two guys said the boss could hardly keep a straight face. I can imagine. Wonder how this was written up by HR.

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