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Old 01-09-2008, 02:20 PM   #41
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Anyone else think Ron Paul is a fairly squirrelly guy? In alot of ways he reminds me of Perot in his mannerisms.
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Anyone else think Ron Paul is a fairly squirrelly guy? In alot of ways he reminds me of Perot in his mannerisms.
Too bad Paul did not run in 2000 and win. He might be a lot like Perot but at least he is not Old George W.

Paul might not be the best candiate but at least if he was the President one might say that maybe the U.S would not be blogged down in the Iraq War & maybe the U.S would not have borrowed billions of $$$$ to fund the Iraq War from China, Japan and others.

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Anyone else think Ron Paul is a fairly squirrelly guy? In alot of ways he reminds me of Perot in his mannerisms.
His voice and appearance always remind me of John Mahoney, the actor who played Martin Crane, Frasier Crane's father:



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Too bad Paul did not run in 2000 and win. He might be a lot like Perot but at least he is not Old George W.

Paul might not be the best candiate but at least if he was the President one might say that maybe the U.S would not be blogged down in the Iraq War & maybe the U.S would not have borrowed billions of $$$$ to fund the Iraq War from China, Japan and others.

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You are right! They need to settle it on American Gladiators. Why didnt I think of that!
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Anyone else think Ron Paul is a fairly squirrelly guy? In alot of ways he reminds me of Perot in his mannerisms.
Yes. His team believes 9/11 "was an inside job". He seems to be into conspiracy theories on things. But he pulls in the fundraising dough. Lots of his fans must not be aware of some of his squirrellier beliefs. Or there are lots of fruitcakes out there.

Not to mention some of the things printed in the newsletter bearing his name in the 90's, and of which content he says "he bears responsibility for".
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I'd probably be in the running for most non-liberal person on this board, and I feel exactly the same!

Yep, it's that 'obviousness' that is creepy. Sure, they all are contrived, as you say - but she's not even good at it! Just bugs the heck out of me.

She just gives me this feeling that if you said - 'my favorite color is chartreuse', she would say 'me too!' if she thought it would get your vote.

It's funny/sad that we are having this kind of discussion about the potential future leaders of the USA....

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My nightmare race is Hillary vs Romney, I will seriously get drunk and cry for a day. My dream race is Obama vs McCain. I am gratified to see that those have two of the lowest negative ratings on the board.

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Hillary with Obama as VP wins it all.
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Hillary with Obama as VP wins it all.

Will NEVER happen. Not in this universe, and not in any parallel universes.

Hillary might take Evan Bayh for VP, never Obama.
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An Obama/Edwards ticket would be great.. not a fan of HRC but I think much of the crap she gets is undeserved. Someone challenged someone else here to delineate exactly what they disagreed with her over.. and no response was forthcoming. She has a harder row to hoe than the others; her only 'advantage' (close hand experience of WH workings) is in many respects a 'disadvantage'.

I continue to be surprised that she is the most disliked..she just doesn't seem that bad, but the MSM has it in for her: when she wore skirts, she had "chunky legs".. now she wears pantsuits and they hate that.. she can never get her hair right, THAT's always a concern.. then there's her blouse, which if it shows any cleavage is scandal #1 on the front page.. if she laughs, she "cackles", if she's serious, she's "hard" and if she tears up, it's a "meltdown".

I think the Beltway Boys are just not grown up enough for a lady president. They'd pull her pigtails if she had them.. and dip them in the inkwell. They'd love to drop a worm down the back of her shirt, or let loose a mouse in hopes that she'll jump on a table. Maybe in the next generation there'll be a chance.
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Hillary with Obama as VP wins it all.
Reminds me of Chris Rock on SNL when talking about the possibility of Bush picking Colin Powell as his VP in 2000.

"Now as you know, there's been alot of talk about a black vice president. And I just wanna tell the world that it'll never happen. As long as you live you will never see a black vice president, you know why? Because some black guy would just kill the president. I'd do it. If Colin Powell was vice president, I'd kill the president and tell his mother about it. What would happen to me? What would they do? Put me in jail with a bunch of black guys that would treat me like a king for the rest of my life? I would be the biggest star in jail, alright, people would be coming up to me and I'd be signing autographs: "97-KY, here you go." Guys would be going: "You're the brother that shot Bush. And you told his mother about it huh? I hope my children turn out to be just like you, Man, you know I was getting ready to rape you until I realized who you were. And even if they had a death penalty, what would happen? I'd just be pardoned by the black president."
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I dislike John McCain even more than Dubya, which is really saying something. The reason is the former's remark that only a Christian is fit to be president of the United States.
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Hey.. "Freedom Requires Religion"!! (the Mittster)
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So am I accurately summarizing the answer to my question about why many people dislike Hillary so much is that "she seems insincere?"
That makes sense to me - I don't know of any specific actions she's taken that would arouse such enmity. Neither Gore nor Kerry would pass a Hollywood screen test, and the same thing may be bringing down Clinton.
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So am I accurately summarizing the answer to my question about why many people dislike Hillary so much is that "she seems insincere?"
That makes sense to me - I don't know of any specific actions she's taken that would arouse such enmity. Neither Gore nor Kerry would pass a Hollywood screen test, and the same thing may be bringing down Clinton.
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Her old man humiliated her by getting oral sex while in office ( and got caught ). Obviously if she didnt have the backbone to kick his ass out why would I vote for her as a president? No backbone.
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mmm.. but she didn't play the victim card one bit. You have to admire THAT backbone.

What would the media be saying about Hillary if she'd divorced Bill? That she's a "wronged woman"? That she didn't try to hold the marriage together for the good of Chelsea? That she ran at the first sign of trouble?? She's had a big target painted on her forehead from Day One, and she always will no matter what she does.

You get the sense that the Clintons really like each other! Don't get that vibe from Bush I and II.

I think it's hard to get to know her because her consultants and handlers are so paranoid about possible mis-steps that she can't be herself. The media won't let you know who she is.. they seem worried about what her laugh sounds like. I don't think she's any more insincere than the next politician... just that people have decided "they don't like her".. much of the reason being "so many people don't like her'... but I think that may be starting to backfire, and she may be starting to get some sympathy due to all the "bashing".
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Ladelfina,
"You get the sense that the Clintons really like each other! Don't get that vibe from Bush I and II."

What color are your glasses!
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"You get the sense that the Clintons really like each other! Don't get that vibe from Bush I and II."

What color are your glasses!
I think it is all in the eye of the beholder. Many people (maybe even ~ 50% of voters?) would think just the opposite.

I also think Ladelfina's view of the media reports on Hillary are influenced by her allegiances. I'm not saying the media hasn't said all those things, but I never pay much attention to that kind of stupid reporting anyhow. I suspect that people on the 'other side' could point out just as much stupid stuff reported about the other candidates. Just depends which comments one is sensitive to.


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