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Old 10-17-2011, 07:19 PM   #441
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Custom officials have always greeted me in a friendly voice "Welcome home!" no matter how grumpy I was from an overseas flight. They have a great sense of humor at least with me as well. I always assumed the friendly chats were to help identify if I really was LOL! from Texas accent and all.

The new thing yesterday for the TSA folks was to ask names when checking IDs. It was amusing to see the folks in front of me stumble on their own names, but I think this was mostly because their brains are thinking, "But you can see my name right there on my driver license, why do I have to tell you my name." But didn't that happen in the movie "The Great Escape" as well?
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:54 PM   #442
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Custom officials have always greeted me in a friendly voice "Welcome home!" no matter how grumpy I was from an overseas flight. They have a great sense of humor at least with me as well. I always assumed the friendly chats were to help identify if I really was LOL! from Texas accent and all.

The new thing yesterday for the TSA folks was to ask names when checking IDs. It was amusing to see the folks in front of me stumble on their own names, but I think this was mostly because their brains are thinking, "But you can see my name right there on my driver license, why do I have to tell you my name." But didn't that happen in the movie "The Great Escape" as well?
Simple but skilful interrogating can be effective just like in the movie.

In 1978 DW and I, along with her sister and BIL went on a road trip to the Republic of Ireland, via ferry. The guys at work told me that I looked too much like a terrorist for them to let me go freely across the border. (yeah, right - see my avatar, who could suspect such an innocent face?)

Our car was pulled out of line in the boarding process and we were questioned for several minutes by 2 plain clothes guys under the "prevention of terrorism act" - I could see the title of the form the border guard was filling out.

The questions were pretty straightforward and were asked many times to all 4 of us, to check our relationships, where we lived what we did for a living, how we met up and traveled and where we going etc. I'm sure our reactions to the questions were being observed as much as the answers themselves.
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Tennessee Becomes First State To Fight Terrorism Statewide - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports

Oh frabjous joy! The TSA has rolled out VIPR checkpoints in Tennessee. They're initially working truck checkpoints and a couple of bus stations.

No word on whether bus passengers had to take their shoes off, or if they were prohibited from carrying more than 3 ounces of liquid on board.
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Oh frabjous joy! The TSA has rolled out VIPR checkpoints in Tennessee. They're initially working truck checkpoints and a couple of bus stations.

No word on whether bus passengers had to take their shoes off, or if they were prohibited from carrying more than 3 ounces of liquid on board.
The extension of this to Colorado will be a sight to see, considering that state law specifically allows the carrying of a loaded handgun in one's glove compartment at all times.
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My anecdotal data (two trips in two months) indicates that I'll never be able to go through a simple metal detector ever again. And if TSA's new scanner doesn't do well with sweat, then maybe they should consider air-conditioning the waiting line?

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The extension of this to Colorado will be a sight to see, considering that state law specifically allows the carrying of a loaded handgun in one's glove compartment at all times.
I wonder when's the last time that anyone carried a glove in that compartment. And shouldn't it be renamed a gun compartment?
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My anecdotal data (two trips in two months) indicates that I'll never be able to go through a simple metal detector ever again. And if TSA's new scanner doesn't do well with sweat, then maybe they should consider air-conditioning the waiting line?

I wonder when's the last time that anyone carried a glove in that compartment. And shouldn't it be renamed a gun compartment?
Vegas still uses the old ones. They have a few nudie scanners, but they're very rarely turned on in my experience.

But some other places don't use them either.

In the last few months I've gone through the regular at Vegas twice, regular at Seattle and Miami, and the new one at Charlotte (or rather opted out of going through the new one at Charlotte).
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At least they're developing some style.

TSA goes through woman’s luggage, finds sex toy, leaves pervy note – Boing Boing
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I know this is an old, dead thread, and I don't really want to start it up with all the recent outrages, but this one made me laugh out loud.

TSA Successfully Detects 2 Out of 3 Claymore Mines in Luggage - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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TSA Successfully Detects 2 Out of 3 Claymore Mines in Luggage - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Well two out of three ain't bad, isn't that what the songs says

So many of the things they screen for really don't pose much of threat of bring down a modern jet aircraft. On the other hand a claymore mine I am pretty sure at the very least would do a number to the passenger section.
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TSA Successfully Detects 2 Out of 3 Claymore Mines in Luggage - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Maybe the other screener was more knowledgable and knew when he saw a fake claymore...
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Maybe the other screener was more knowledgable and knew when he saw a fake claymore...
Yeah, because a fake claymore is much less likely to cause a reaction than a leather belt buckle in the shape of a pistol, or a cupcake, or playdoh. No, I suspect it was just a miss. Or maybe the other screener didn't know what a claymore was?
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Yeah, because a fake claymore is much less likely to cause a reaction than a leather belt buckle in the shape of a pistol, or a cupcake, or playdoh. No, I suspect it was just a miss. Or maybe the other screener didn't know what a claymore was?
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I wasn't sure that was a sarcastic icon, although I was thinking it might be. I haven't paid attention to the icons recently. But I figured even if it was sarcasm a few additional sarcastic points wouldn't be amiss.
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Well I will start driving 6 hours each way rather than fly. We will see which I prefer, but I have had about enough.
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Well I will start driving 6 hours each way rather than fly. We will see which I prefer, but I have had about enough.
When the scope'n'grope machines were first installed, we decided not to fly until they are removed, barring any emergency reason arising that might force us to do so. Being retired, we can do that and we haven't flown since that time.

We are more concerned about the invasion of privacy, but inept screening is also a valid reason to drive.
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Had to fly to Baltimore a couple weeks ago. Got the full body scan only to then get the pat down after a tissue was detected in my pants pocket.

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Well I will start driving 6 hours each way rather than fly. We will see which I prefer, but I have had about enough.
I'm with you. But be careful, the TSA is trying to get you killed.

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Other passengers may substitute car travel for air travel. But this too has its consequences, since car travel is much more dangerous than air travel over all. According to the Cornell study, roughly 130 inconvenienced travelers died every three months as a result of additional traffic fatalities brought on by substituting ground transit for air transit. That’s the equivalent of four fully-loaded Boeing 737s crashing each year.
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Also, they're not satisfied with just making airports unbearable in the name of security theater, they want to take their show on the road.

News Release April 13, 2012

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You can run, but you can't hide. At least not in the land of the free.
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I don't get the train station gig. Only a dumb terrorist would choose a station.

I wonder if many of the searches of vehicles aren't for drug interdiction.
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I don't get the train station gig. Only a dumb terrorist would choose a station.

I wonder if many of the searches of vehicles aren't for drug interdiction.
You are assuming they are trying to increase safety, as opposed to appearing to increase safety. Also, I think there's a power aspect to it. As in, let's get as big as we can, take over as much territory as we can, and get some serious job security going. Sadly personal liberty gets it in the @ss in the process.
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Clearly the terrorists have already won. We get irritated at the folks "protecting" us more than we do at the reason we are being "protected". I'm not suggesting I have the answers, but I think it's obvious that the folks we pay to protect us don't have much clue either. YMMV

Those of you who drive to avoid the "problem" are lucky indeed. Once I reach my mainland destination, I plan extensive travel. THEN I'll avoid air (and bus and train) travel until I recross the Pacific. Not many other options when it comes to vast distances over water. For those who might suggest a cruise ship, I have two words for you: Costa Concordia. Actually, I have no idea if there are any cruise lines making scheduled visits to the Islands. I know there are always one or two lines in and out of the harbor for the rambling and gambling set. I just don't think they actually "go" anywhere. YMMV
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