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Old 02-06-2015, 12:16 PM   #61
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So why do these people invade private property ? Maybe there are too many nice grandmas (grandpas) out there.
Unless you have posted No Trespassing signs, how are visitors to know where your private property begins?
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Old 02-06-2015, 12:43 PM   #62
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Unless you have posted No Trespassing signs, how are visitors to know where your private property begins?
Good question.

These references should explain it.
Private property - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Trespass to land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anybody with any common knowledge of life knows that a private home (as opposed to a retail store or the city/town hall with public parking and open doors during business hours) is just that...it belongs to a homeowner who pays for it. And some homeowners like it that way, i.e. no strangers allowed.

If we lived in a better world, I would not be so protective of my little domain. Too many nuts out there who like to invade personal property and space because they want to, for whatever reason.

BTDT got the Tshirt. So I am within my rights as a private homeowner to treat uninvited visitors as trespassers.
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Are you sure that someone is not allowed to walk up to your front door and knock? Why else do builders build sidewalks up from the street?
It depends on state law. I think in most states unless the property is posted or the owner or a person in a supervisory position (at a business) tells the visitor to leave there is no trespass. That is, merely walking to the door and knocking is not a crime.
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Are you sure that someone is not allowed to walk up to your front door and knock? Why else do builders build sidewalks up from the street?
For invited guests (who might be parking on the street, or walking)?

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I empa/sympathize with cold-call sales folks, but I'm not interested. Do have a "No solicitors" sign, and no, won't answer the door for anyone I didn't invite over.


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It depends on state law. I think in most states unless the property is posted or the owner or a person in a supervisory position (at a business) tells the visitor to leave there is no trespass. That is, merely walking to the door and knocking is not a crime.
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Both states I've lived in required signs or paints. We had undercover agents, sheriff and state police knock on the front door. They wanted to know about the house 1/4 mile west of ours. DW explained we couldn't see it, observed nothing. They asked if they could observe the house from our twenty acres. She said sure please stay on this side of our private road. They had no problem with that. Our house was private, we had no drapes.

About a month later there were 20 marked und unmarked LE cars out in their driveway. Probably some unmarked Federal guys as well.

These folks were smuggling modern "speedballs" (meth and PCP (horse tranquilizer)) from Mexico and distributing from an old dumpy house. Even with all the late night visitors they observed couldn't get a warrent. They had to get the warrant on child protection charges, but then saw some drugs.

I answer the door with caution. The religious folks I just smile and wish them a nice day.
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I make a point to not answer the door if I do not know the person. I have two large dogs who like to survey the cul-de-sac from inside the storm door. All hell breaks loose when some idiot starts up the walk. This week was " write a book" week and some fool wanted to give me a cheap pen? Why would anyone keep coming up to the door?
My female dog never stops barking at the " intruder". She even bites the retrieved UPS and Fed Ex pkgs. I will have to train these guys to protect me from cyber crime and mail fraud.
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