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Old 09-11-2006, 11:19 AM   #41
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...Wrap yourself in the flag if you want but you do not impress this real patriot. America did not become strong because of blind self imposed protectionism. I happen to think that it is very un American to support and protect companies that make no serious effort to provide good products and service. In the long run your support for those companies allows them to continue providing inferior products and service and ultimately dooms them to total failure. Stop buying their inferior crap. Make them fire their CEOs and boards of directors and trim the inflated pay and waste and they will have to do better and perhaps then they will survive.
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Re: The new CEO of Ford drives a Lexus LS430.............
Old 09-11-2006, 11:21 AM   #42
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I refuse to buy a vehicle that's not made in America by an American company. When you buy a car from a foreign company even though it might be made in the United States you are doing nothing to insure the long term survival of American companies. I consider anyone driving a Lexus (or Honda or Saab or Toyota, etc.) to be downright Un-American.
Do you also buy clothing made in America of American-made cloth? How about your electronics--any of them American? How about your food--is it harvested by American citizens on American farms? Do you know that a lot of inventions, pharmaceuticals, etc were created by foreign companies and Nobel prizes won by foreign scientists and economists--do you prefer not to profit by their work? What about all the non-Americans employed in America?

The problem with American auto manufacturers isn't that people like me buy Japanese cars. It's American auto management: they make bad decisions about what cars to build, at what level of quality, at what level of service, at wehat level of profit--and the executives take egregiously high pay and reneg on the deals they made with their unions (foolish as many of the deals were). I don't like to reward deliberate stupidity, even though I would love to Buy American.
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http://travel.discovery.com/fansites...s/season3.html

Wilson sporting goods, Mack trucks, Samuel Adams... Made in the USA!!
Sorry, Mack Trucks are Swedish.

From their website:

"Mack is a member of the Volvo Group, a publicly held company headquartered in Gothenburg, Sweden"

Sam Adams - Made by Boston Beer Co., Inc. - SAM on the NYSE - At least 16% foreign owned by Credit Suisse (Switzerland) and Barclay's UK (the largest single shareholder) -
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=SAM

Better put the Sam Adams down unless you like supporting them damn foreigners and killing the true red white and blue American businesses : .

Wilson - a division of the Amer Sports Corporation listed on the Helsinki (Finland) Stock Exchange. Another good ole American Company... :

Darn near impossible to buy anything truly 100% made in the USA.

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Made in... :P
I know, I know...

I'm pretty sure I've bought Wilson stuff that was Made in China. Never bought any Mack Trucks before. A better label for them would be Assembled in the US, since they undoubtedly have parts originating outside the US.

Point is, it is hard to buy anything these days that is made in the US of 100% US components (said components also 100% made w/ US labor, parts and tools/machines), with US Citizen labor, by a wholly owned US corporation.
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I wouldn't go as far as to call buyers of cars that don't have a US brand name "un-Merkin", but I will admit that if all else were equal, I would buy a US-made car. Unfortunately, this isn't a simple matter any more. Is Chrysler a US company? What do you make of the Mercedes-Benz manufactued in Alabama? Heck, my old Ford Escort had a Japanese-made transmission, and my Subaru was built in Indiana.
My '89 Ford Festiva is a Mazda built in Korea.
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There is, but it takes a LOT of digging to figure out which cars built by American manufacturers are actually imports.
Actually they are supposed to list US content on the sticker.... like 60% US or 90%... don't know what the percent represents since some of the components are assembled in Mexico with US made parts... but there is a number there...
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When you buy a car from a foreign company even though it might be made in the United States you are doing nothing to insure the long term survival of American companies.
I don't consider it my responsibility to insure the long term survival of American companines.
That is the responsibility of the company itself. If they make the most reliable car with innovative features, or even a car that has the same reliability, innovation and fuel efficiency I will certainly buy that car.

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I consider anyone driving a Lexus (or Honda or Saab or Toyota, etc.) to be downright Un-American.
I believe companies relying on the government subsidies and trade protections to the point of ignoring what the public wants is un-American.
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I've driven Fords daily for the last 10 years and liked every one of them. Been very reliable and good in snow.

I'd rather walk with crutches than drive a Japanese car.
Well, Ford is bound to get lucky once in a while...............I wouldn't drive a Ford if it was given to me..........

Chrysler is almost as bad.

I drove GM cars for 20 years, but I guess all my friends and aquaintences driving imports that never break down has finally gotten to me..................

As soon as the Big Three design cars that are reliable, I'll be back on board.............
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Sorry, Mack Trucks are Swedish.

From their website:

"Mack is a member of the Volvo Group, a publicly held company headquartered in Gothenburg, Sweden"
Ah, but Ford owns Volvo, so ultimately the profits on a Mack truck, by a commodious vicus of recirculation, flow back to the US.
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Ah, but Ford owns Volvo, so ultimately the profits on a Mack truck, by a commodious vicus of recirculation, flow back to the US.
If I remember correctly... Ford only owns Volvo cars.. .they did not buy the truck division... so it does not come back to Ford..
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If I remember correctly... Ford only owns Volvo cars.. .they did not buy the truck division... so it does not come back to Ford..
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I find it intersting that many of you are stating American companies only build crap. Have any of you seen the latest JD Powers vehicle dependability listings. seven of the top thirteen (all of those above the average) car manufacturers are Amercian owned. Of the foriegn cars the only one that makes since to me is the Hoda/Acura ratings, that came in one behind the other. Toyota and Lexus didn't do that. So in my view I see Toyota has figured out how to build a good car, but wants me to pay thousands more to have it. once the technology is paid for it shoudl spread to the other lines, but appently not in this case.

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...asp?ID=2006133
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I find it intersting that many of you are stating American companies only build crap.* Have any of you seen the latest JD Powers vehicle dependability listings.* seven of the top thirteen (all of those above the average) car manufacturers are Amercian owned.* http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/new...asp?ID=2006133
Ford and GM have earned that reputation with many many years of substandard cars. Not to mention lagging behind the imports for so long in terms of fuel economy.

I think it's wonderful that they have rated so highly this year. However they will have to keep this up for at least a couple years before they can get more people to forget about their reputation for poor quality.
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Disclaimer: We currently own a Ford truck, Chevy car, and Mazda van...

FYI from Consumer Reports (subscription required to view);

"Using results from the 2001-2005 [auto] surveys, we analyzed how vehicles from six major automakers typically fare as they age. We combined problem rates of one- to eight-year-old cars from each survey year. On average, Toyota and Honda vehicles have far fewer problems than their competitors as they get older. Ford vehicles are closest to the average"



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Sounds about right, REWahoo. My Toyota 4Runner now has its second (non-maintenance) problem in 8 1/2 years: my husband says the cable that raises/lowers the antenna is broken. I can listen to the radio just fine, but the little motor makes a kind of grinding noise for maybe 20 seconds when I turn the radio on. DH seems disinclined to fix it himself
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Well I can see from this discussion alone that Ford has it work cut out for it just convincing Americans to even consider one of their products.

Their future is not assured.
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