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Old 12-31-2012, 11:28 AM   #41
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You must not have worked for the same company as me. I would have described most management at my company as near sociopathic. Calling them self-absorbed and heartless would be too kind.

But not all. I am still friends with two of my managers who are retired. They would agree with my statement as well.
That sounds very familiar.

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I drove the same old Ford Tempo for the first 15 years of my management status.
One funny incident I remember. Had a thing called employee of the month. One of the perks was a parking spot in the reserved section. Well the employee of the month parked his old beater in his spot and went in to work. One of the big shots showed up in his 7 series BMW and so disgusted having to park next to the beater he called security and had it towed away.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:39 AM   #42
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Taking the management path offers options...you don't have to be self-absorbed and heartless like some would like to believe.
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You must not have worked for the same company as me. I would have described most management at my company as near sociopathic. Calling them self-absorbed and heartless would be too kind.

But not all. I am still friends with two of my managers who are retired. They would agree with my statement as well.
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That sounds very familiar.
I must have been lucky. We certainly had our asshat managers, but I'd guess it was easily less than 1/3rd. But maybe my perspective as a former fellow asshat manager skews my estimate.

I'd wonder why someone would stay if (nearly) all the managers were "sociopathic" - despite how difficult it is to change jobs/careers.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:49 AM   #43
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I'd wonder why someone would stay if (nearly) all the managers were "sociopathic" - despite how difficult it is to change jobs/careers.
I worked for a decent supervisor that tried to keep the sh*t from us. They paid me a lot of money. They tended not to mess with us too much, they didn't know what engineers did exactly but they knew the plant couldn't run without us. When I had enough ( BS and money ) I quit!
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I must have been lucky. We certainly had our asshat managers, but I'd guess it was easily less than 1/3rd. But maybe my perspective as a former fellow asshat manager skews my estimate.

I'd wonder why someone would stay if (nearly) all the managers were "sociopathic" - despite how difficult it is to change jobs/careers.
Pension. Company was bought out about halfway through my career. Too much invested to leave.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:04 PM   #45
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I worked for a decent supervisor that tried to keep the sh*t from us. They paid me a lot of money. They tended not to mess with us too much, they didn't know what engineers did exactly but they knew the plant couldn't run without us. When I had enough ( BS and money ) I quit!
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Pension. Company was bought out about halfway through my career. Too much invested to leave.
Excellent reasons, you made conscious choices vs just complaining. I did the same, though I didn't complain about the asshat managers that much. I knew they'd still be there 'trying to buy happiness' long after I left...and they are.
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