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Old 10-24-2016, 08:05 AM   #21
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Well, what about Glenn? Good guy, came within a fraction of a second of getting his head knocked in and throat cut, then actually probably but not really died falling off the dumpster, and then went down under a horde of walkers Sunday night, only to be saved by Abraham machine gunning down the zombies getting ready to munch on him while somehow not shooting Glenn too. I think if you want to complain, you should complain about him using up all the good luck on the show.

As far as Jessie, I'd have like to keep her around too, but Sam was doomed months ago, and there's no way she was just going to walk away from him. Such is life in the ZA.
+1. Feel like I'm generally able to handle things like violence on TV. But that was too much last night. Not sure if I'll continue with this show unless something changes fast. Since I'm still working Sunday nights are depressing enough. Don't need this.

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Old 10-24-2016, 08:06 AM   #22
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Man, if TWD continues like this episode I'm going to stop watching. Unrelenting violence and misery is not my idea of entertainment. I'm a Louis L'Amour good-guy-wins-the-day-and-rides-off-into-the-sunset type of guy. I don't mind a few setbacks, but I'm not seeing anything good happening for quite a while. I don't read the comics, but I'm still peripherally aware of the storyline. Negan stays around for a long time, and I don't think I want to watch. What do y'all think?
Oops. +1'd the wrong Harley quote. This is the one I meant to do.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:52 AM   #24
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Man, if TWD continues like this episode I'm going to stop watching. Unrelenting violence and misery is not my idea of entertainment.
+1 for sure. About 30 minutes into the episode last night, I found myself thinking this might be the moment the show "jumped the shark" and starts to steadily lose viewership. The searing levels of depravity and misery and brutality and gore seemed over the top to me, and certainly were not entertaining. I get that Negan was trying to make a point and had to ensure the group (and especially) Rick felt completely subjugated and helpless, but ultimately I watch the show for entertainment... and last night was a real struggle. It won't be entertaining for me to watch a glib, cocky, psychopathic mass murderer terrorize Rick's group over the course of a full season in this way, so I'm hoping that this episode was the low-water mark and things improve substantially. The show needs to be about more than the abject brutality and hopelessness of this world.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:01 PM   #25
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I came across this interesting analysis of the show just now and thought I'd share.

The Walking Dead Quitter’s Club: goodbye for real - The Verge

The authors lay out a good case for how the show has become nothing more than "torture porn" and is cynically manipulating its viewers. Not sure I completely agree, but there's a lot of food for thought in there.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:00 PM   #26
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I won't be watching it anymore after the season opener last night. I call that episode gore porn. I'm not interested in that.
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It was certainly one of the most action packed, brutal, and hair raising. I do like how they manage to balance all the violence with some humanity too.

Going forward I'm curious to see if they can (or eve want to) transition the show to one where the characters start rebuilding a civilization. After 6 seasons the The Walking Dead has pretty much "survived" on the same formula . . . wandering nomads in search of safety finally find a sanctuary only to have that sanctuary destroyed, rinse, repeat.

We've now followed them from Hershel's farm, to the prison, to Woodbury, to Terminus, and to Alexandria. I'd like to see them take a risk and take the series in a different direction.
They almost have to go in a new direction to survive, the show I mean. You're right, it's basically been the same plot for years.
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Compared to some of the stuff that went on Germany during WWII *in real life*, last night on TWD was pretty light.

I can see how some would not like it though. I did not like Saving Private Ryan. The opening scenes were just too real and graphic.
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