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01-28-2015, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtn
All you folks in New England stay warm and safe. I'll be rooting for you down here in Az for the Super Bowl!
For the NY'ers....your mayor should be ashamed! Seriously, shutting down the subways over 6 inches? Thought the city was tougher than that.
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They are tough and the powers that be were very smart to shut down all transportation systems in the face of a storm like this.
Imagine for every person or group stuck in the subway or on the highway, a rescue crew is busy getting them out instead of responding to real emergencies (accident, fire, medical).
Check the snowfall amounts for Long Island. Not that far away from the heart of the Big Apple.
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01-28-2015, 09:24 AM
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The CBC weather lady said last night that the latest American weather models accurately predicted the location of the storm but that decisions were being made based on a European model that forecast the storm's location to be 75 km west of where it actually was. That relatively short distance made the difference for NYC. Obviously the weather forecasters and governments need to rethink their modeling.
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01-28-2015, 04:52 PM
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You should really check out Cliff Mass's blog on weather . He had a good discussion on the recent snow storm predictions. Check out the 1/27/2015 blog entry.
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/
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01-28-2015, 05:59 PM
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The technology still has difficulty with the amount of snowfall especially in a given location. If there is a 50/50 chance that New York gets hit with 30 inches of snow and 75 mile/hour winds, then the city leaders need to take that into account. If there is only 10% chance, then maybe they can roll the dice.
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01-28-2015, 11:45 PM
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#3445
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All I know is that so far, the 7 state travel ban prevented deaths from idiots insisting on being out on the highways, getting stuck, and nobody could rescue them, trapped in their cars for 12 plus hours with no heat and possible carbon monoxide poisoning.
Weather prediction is a funny thing, especially in the face of blizzard conditions. In the Northeast, that means 65 plus mph winds plus any amount of snow. The roads and airports and subways and trains get closed for a very good reason.
Hooray to the governors and mayors who closed ALL transportation ahead of Juno, so no unnecessary deaths (accident and/or hypothermia) happened.
During the big Buffalo storm a month or so ago, hundreds of cars were stranded on the NYS Thruway. Most survived the 24 hour ordeal, but not all.
I live in Lake Ontario lake effect snow country, which is not to be sneezed at. I've never seen a storm in central NY that even approached the fury of Juno. Many places to the east of my home got thrashed in a very short time, some got thrashed for 48 hours.
Coastal areas along the Atlantic Ocean in NY and CT and RI and MA are simply destroyed. Ouch !
CLOSING THE ROADS save lives.
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01-29-2015, 12:11 AM
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#3446
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I apologize in advance for being on the edge of a rant...BUT...
I want to see the statistics about how many, IF ANY, stranded motorists died as a result of hypothermia, or how many people got trapped in the subterranean areas (no heat by the way), and on the positive side, how many babies were safely delivered, how many elderly persons did not freeze to death, etc etc.
Armchair quarterbacking after the fact is not allowed here.
If you don't live in snow country, well then...where is my favorite image of a zipper ?
Western folks in the mountains know about all this. Easterners know all about this. Flyover country folks know all about this.
And by all means, ask the residents of Scituate MA and Marshfield MA, both oceanfront (not resorts but old fashioned New England fishing towns), how far off the NWS forecasters were. Ocean fishing boats, most privately owned, were all in port versus out to sea when all hell broke loose.
Has anyone ever seen the movie "The Perfect Storm" ? This last event was damn close to that, meteorologically.
End of rant.
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01-29-2015, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freebird5825
I apologize in advance for being on the edge of a rant...BUT...
I want to see the statistics about how many, IF ANY, stranded motorists died as a result of hypothermia, or how many people got trapped in the subterranean areas (no heat by the way), and on the positive side, how many babies were safely delivered, how many elderly persons did not freeze to death, etc etc.
Armchair quarterbacking after the fact is not allowed here.
If you don't live in snow country, well then...where is my favorite image of a zipper ?
Western folks in the mountains know about all this. Easterners know all about this. Flyover country folks know all about this.
And by all means, ask the residents of Scituate MA and Marshfield MA, both oceanfront (not resorts but old fashioned New England fishing towns), how far off the NWS forecasters were. Ocean fishing boats, most privately owned, were all in port versus out to sea when all hell broke loose.
Has anyone ever seen the movie "The Perfect Storm" ? This last event was damn close to that, meteorologically.
End of rant.
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You forgot "GET OFF MY LAWN!"...
We (DFW-area) are ill-equipped for snow/ice, and I'm happy to STFH when it does.
Did you get to see George Clooney?
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01-29-2015, 01:56 PM
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Hey, no complaints from me when it doesn't snow!
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01-29-2015, 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
We (DFW-area) are ill-equipped for snow/ice, and I'm happy to STFH when it does.
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I believe it! Most of us here in New Orleans are better at dealing with Mardi Gras than dealing with snow or ice.
My post earlier on the thread is great proof.
http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...ml#post1548764
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01-29-2015, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
You forgot "GET OFF MY LAWN!"...
We (DFW-area) are ill-equipped for snow/ice, and I'm happy to STFH when it does.
Did you get to see George Clooney?
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Ok, get off my lawn...so you don't freeze your feet.
It's covered with snow right now.
No George Clooney sightings.
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02-03-2015, 11:44 AM
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I like this
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02-08-2015, 11:52 AM
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It has been fairly good in SW PA. Maybe not so good in some parts of Canada.
By the way does your snowplow work this good?
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02-08-2015, 04:30 PM
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Is99, That train video was amazing!
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02-08-2015, 04:55 PM
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beautiful weather.... nice and white.
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02-08-2015, 05:51 PM
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Thanks ls99 I might need that plow by Tuesday
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02-09-2015, 12:17 PM
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I feel for you folks in NY and Boston area. Stay safe.
Some of my cousins in Buffalo, NY have neat war stories to tell!
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02-09-2015, 12:32 PM
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#3457
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Here's the snowfall picture so far...not too bad where I am, but just 15 miles to the north on the Tug Hill Plateau...
The snowmobilers are very happy. It's great for local businesses to have all those snow tourists coming up here.
NERFC Snow Page
Living out in the country with this kind of snowfall is one thing because there is plenty of open area to get it off the roads.
Urban areas have to be completely blocked in by the white stuff.
My back deck is covered with about 2 feet of snow. I had to cut a narrow path to the generator under the enclosed porch yesterday. Today I had to shave snow off the piled up snowbanks that reached the bottom of my mailbox.
And it is still snowing...I'll take some pics and post them.
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02-09-2015, 01:39 PM
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Snow in East Nowhere NY as of Feb 9, 2015.
Mailbox and recently carved out layers of snow-ologic time, back deck (26 inches measured freefall snow in the middle), driveway snow hilled up by snowplow in front of a 6 foot wooden fence, 30 gallon garbage can on front steps, and scale for back deck.
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02-09-2015, 01:51 PM
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Holy cow! That's a lot of snow. Stay safe (and warm if possible!)
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02-09-2015, 02:13 PM
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Brings back nightmares of me living in Connecticut. I spoke with my sister today in CT and mentioned to her it was 80 F here yesterday and I cut the grass.
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