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10-04-2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nuiloa
If they got caught 3 times, chances are good that these are not the only criminal acts they have done.
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Again, a fair and just Justice system doesn't care about the "chances" of other crimes that have been committed...because you think so. It only cares about convictions.
Since you seem insistent on what you "know" about people that have been accused of a crime -- regardless of facts -- I can only hope that you never serve on a jury in the US.
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10-04-2011, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by W2R
Alternately, isolate them in a barbed wire surrounded region carved out of some of the northern/midwestern states and let them establish their own government there.
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Isn't that pretty much what England did by sending criminals to its colonies (Australia, North America, the West Indies, etc.)? France had Devil's Island (e.g., Papillon). The USSR had Siberia (the Gulag).
Not sure if it was the best solution for them all, but it was apparently politically popular.
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10-04-2011, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nuiloa
If they got caught 3 times, chances are good that these are not the only criminal acts they have done. If so, they have been spectacularly unlucky 3 times in a row and probably should re-consider a life of crime. No matter what they look like.
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They'd be even unluckier if these were the only 3 criminal acts they had done, and they got caught 3 times! I agree 100%, they should re-consider a life of crime and hopefully they have the chance to do that, if they are incarcerated due to the 3 strikes law.
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10-04-2011, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by braumeister
Isn't that pretty much what England did by sending criminals to its colonies (Australia, North America, the West Indies, etc.)? France had Devil's Island (e.g., Papillon). The USSR had Siberia (the Gulag).
Not sure if it was the best solution for them all, but it was apparently politically popular.
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Yes, I guess it was. As you mention, many convicts were sent to Australia, and also to Georgia here in our own U.S.:
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The misconception of Georgia's having been founded as a debtor or penal colony persists due to the numerous English convicts who were sentenced to transportation to Georgia.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ia_(U.S._state)
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10-04-2011, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eridanus
Since you seem insistent on what you "know" about people that have been accused of a crime -- regardless of facts -- I can only hope that you never serve on a jury in the US.
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Worked for the police; worked undercover for vice squad; worked in jails; worked for lawyers; worked as a paralegal.
Sister is an assistant warden; other sister runs prison rehab programs;
Brother-in-law a police officer; other 2 BILs are corrections officers in maximum security prison; assorted cousins are cops and/or COs.
And it's a very good thing that I don't ever serve on juries. My personal preference would be '3 strikes and you're dead".
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10-04-2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by W2R
Me too! I couldn't agree more. Alternately, isolate them in a barbed wire surrounded region carved out of some of the northern/midwestern states and let them establish their own government there.
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Ahem. I was thinking more like New Orleans.
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10-04-2011, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by travelover
Ahem. I was thinking more like New Orleans.
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I agree travelover. Sorry W2R, but the criminals most be punished by suffering through those hot high humidity summers to thoroughly teach them a lesson
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10-04-2011, 06:12 PM
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10-04-2011, 06:22 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Originally Posted by Nuiloa
Worked for the police; worked undercover for vice squad; worked in jails; worked for lawyers; worked as a paralegal.
Sister is an assistant warden; other sister runs prison rehab programs;
Brother-in-law a police officer; other 2 BILs are corrections officers in maximum security prison; assorted cousins are cops and/or COs.
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Then you should know how the justice system works. It requires evidence; innocent people are convicted because of "feelings"...
Texas Man Imprisoned For Wife's Death To Be Freed
...and the need to close a case.
Crime lab probe looks beyond Harris County - Houston Chronicle
"According to the audit, lab workers were insufficiently trained, did not follow standard scientific protocols and gave trial testimony based on questionable lab results."
(Emphasis added.)
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And it's a very good thing that I don't ever serve on juries. My personal preference would be '3 strikes and you're dead".
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Yeah, that'd be more popular in other countries. Like Saudi Arabia or Iran.
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