Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Today's News "Reporting"
Old 03-31-2015, 09:45 AM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ExFlyBoy5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,977
Today's News "Reporting"

About a month ago, I read a blog about how news reporting has really gone downhill. Now, I don't really know that it's any better or worse than it used to be, but it seems as though it is.

Anyway, I used to make habit of watching the local news a couple times of day as well as look at what was "trending" on the internet. After reading the blog, I started to take note of what REALLY applies to me and most of it (about 98% of it) is really inconsequential to my life. So, over the period of two weeks, I went on a "news free" sabbatical. Of course, there's no good way to avoid ALL news (which I wouldn't want to do anyway), but I did notice that by not watching the local news or seeking out "trends" on the internet, I find a little bit of inner peace. It's difficult to explain, but getting away from the constant news cycle of stories that have NO BEARING on my life has been good for the soul.

I think a lot of it really is that the news folks are just trying to sell advertising. I get it. They are making money...I have no problem with that. But everything is SO sensationalized! I see it ALL OVER Facebook (which I have about decided to dump because it too doesn't really add anything to my life anymore) with teaser "stories" that want you to click through 15 pages to realize that there isn't a story at all.

The latest example is this non-sense about the TSA SPOT program. This program (been around since 2010) uses officers to scrutinize the behavior of travelers in airport screening areas in an attempt to identify anyone who may pose a security risk. If they identify someone exhibiting a "cluster" of behaviors from a list of over 90 indicators that the TSA associates with stress, fear, or deception, they refer that person for secondary inspection or questioning.

Now, it seems as though a list of some of these behaviors has been "revealed" and the ones that have been picked up by the press are VERY sensational. I won't post the specifics, but I attached what Google news is showing. All sensationalized to get more eyes on the "story". I picked up on this "story" from another forum and it's like wildfire over there. People are all up in arms about how the TSA is profiling them and if you cough too much, you might be a terrorist and I think it's ridiculous. The media is to blame for this phenomenon and I wish it would just stop already.

Sorry about the rant, but my DW is probably tired of me complaining about the "news" so I thought I'd share with all you lovely people!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg TSA.jpg (233.7 KB, 19 views)
__________________

__________________
Founder and Head Lounger @ The Life of Leisure Institute
Retired in 2014 at the Ripe Age of 40.
ExFlyBoy5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 03-31-2015, 09:56 AM   #2
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Midpack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 11,965
Between the 24/7 partisan networks that put out what looks like news but it's not, and almost all networks constantly reporting "news" that hasn't yet been fact checked, I don't have much use for TV news any more. There are few news programs left that even try to provide accurate unbiased news. YMMV
__________________

__________________
No one agrees with other people's opinions; they merely agree with their own opinions -- expressed by somebody else. Sydney Tremayne
Retired Jun 2011 at age 57

Target AA: 60% equity funds / 35% bond funds / 5% cash
Target WR: Approx 2.5% Approx 20% SI (secure income, SS only)
Midpack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:02 AM   #3
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ExFlyBoy5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midpack View Post
Between the 24/7 partisan networks that put out what looks like news but it's not, and almost all networks constantly reporting "news" that hasn't yet been fact checked, I don't have much use for TV news any more. There are few news programs left that even try to provide accurate unbiased news. YMMV
You hit the nail on the head. I found that when I actively avoid watching/reading the "news" I will still hear about things that are going on in the world. Certainly if another 9/11 happened, I would know about it pretty darn quick. But just to see another house burn down, a thug carjacking someone, or sensational stories that isn't news at all...well, it's just a big drag that I just as soon not have on my life.

I have figured out in my VERY early months of retirement that the days seem EVEN SHORTER than when I was w*rking, so I have to make the best of them!
__________________
Founder and Head Lounger @ The Life of Leisure Institute
Retired in 2014 at the Ripe Age of 40.
ExFlyBoy5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:40 AM   #4
Dryer sheet wannabe
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 10
The news, 90% of it is “events”. And the people in the news, most of them are “celebrities” which is just another way of saying, hey this guy really doesn’t do anything that we can describe as a job, so he must be a “celebrity”. So we end up with celebrities in events, that's 90% of the news today. Most of the last 10% of the news is when the celebrity screws up, and then you see them at a charity event with other celebrities.
__________________
ITTN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:41 AM   #5
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
HFWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 12,964
It's still possible to find thoughtful analysis, but one has to look for it.

As far as the "OMG, look at this" crap on Facebook, I ruthlessly hide it, and it has made the experience somewhat more pleasurable.
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:42 AM   #6
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
HFWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 12,964
Quote:
Originally Posted by ITTN View Post
...which is just another way of saying, hey this guy really doesn’t do anything that we can describe as a job, so he must be a “celebrity”...
I must be a "celebrity" then...
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:48 AM   #7
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
steelyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Triangle
Posts: 3,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR View Post
It's still possible to find thoughtful analysis, but one has to look for it.

As far as the "OMG, look at this" crap on Facebook, I ruthlessly hide it, and it has made the experience somewhat more pleasurable.

I've never had any desire to be on Facebook. As far as "social media" goes, e-r.org is about it. When I quit here, I'll go down to the coffee shop and hang with the good ol' boys. I think the proportion of curmudgeons and Cliff Clavins will be about the same.
__________________

steelyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 10:52 AM   #8
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 228
Hyperbole sells.
__________________
jimbee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 11:02 AM   #9
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Chuckanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: West of the Mississippi
Posts: 6,321
Part of the problem is that the 'reporters' know very little about what they are reporting on. This is especially true in the areas of science, religion and economics, IMHO.

The days of having a science reporter like Jules Bergman are long gone.



__________________
The worst decisions are usually made in times of anger and impatience.
Chuckanut is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 11:03 AM   #10
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 11,615
Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR View Post
It's still possible to find thoughtful analysis, but one has to look for it.
I've found much more of it in print than online/TV/radio. The stories can be longer and, if I want to read something again to "get it", I can do so. I can stop reading whenever I want and skip to something more interesting.

As far as important real-world events that impact me, if it is important somebody will usually mention it right here.

I need to look into podcasts/downloads a bit more. It might be a good way to get thoughtful reporting/analysis when I can't be reading.
__________________
"Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite." - R. Heinlein
samclem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 11:30 AM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
bbbamI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dallas 'burb
Posts: 9,039
About two months ago we changed our home page from current 'news' to the daily comics, financial news, scientific discoveries and house remodeling tips.

Life for us is much better.

...and I don't have to look at Kim Kardashian's butt everyday. Thank gawd.
__________________
There's no need to complicate, our time is short..
bbbamI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 11:33 AM   #12
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
HFWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 12,964
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbbamI View Post
...and I don't have to look at Kim Kardashian's butt everyday. Thank gawd.
Kanye?
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 11:42 AM   #13
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
bbbamI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dallas 'burb
Posts: 9,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR View Post
Kanye?
Heh...a match made in heaven Hollywood. Ain't love grand?
__________________
There's no need to complicate, our time is short..
bbbamI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 12:02 PM   #14
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
audreyh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 16,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midpack View Post
Between the 24/7 partisan networks that put out what looks like news but it's not, and almost all networks constantly reporting "news" that hasn't yet been fact checked, I don't have much use for TV news any more. There are few news programs left that even try to provide accurate unbiased news. YMMV
Totally agree. When CNN decided that what Joe Blow on the street had to say about any issue was "news", that was the last straw.
__________________
Well, I thought I was retired. But it seems that now I'm working as a travel agent instead!
audreyh1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 12:06 PM   #15
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
audreyh1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Rio Grande Valley
Posts: 16,457
We went to a "no news" policy at home a couple of years ago, and we couldn't be happier for it. It is not necessary. "News" no longer informs. It seems more likely to misinform.

If I want to know about something, I can find out all I want to know quickly via the Internet. I'm delighted to not know about a bunch of trivial things.

I have my Facebook feed pretty well cleaned up. I mark "I don't want to see this" on items that appear in my feed that I want to go away. I remove people from my feed who post too much on political issues or news or other things I don't find interesting. As a result my feed does seem to match my interests reasonably well and I am rarely annoyed.
__________________
Well, I thought I was retired. But it seems that now I'm working as a travel agent instead!
audreyh1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 12:15 PM   #16
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ExFlyBoy5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1 View Post
I have my Facebook feed pretty well cleaned up. I mark "I don't want to see this" on items that appear in my feed that I want to go away. I remove people from my feed who post too much on political issues or news or other things I don't find interesting. As a result my feed does seem to match my interests reasonably well and I am rarely annoyed.
I have tried to clean up FB as best as I can (I have right at 98 friends, and really, that's about 85 too many) but it's still a mess of sharing crap I don't care about...lots of articles that are nothing more than clickbait. And then I find out that FB really only shows you what IT wants to show you in the feed. I noticed that some people that I WANT to follow I don't get shown. Apparently, this is by design and I find this also quite annoying. Here's a good video from a YouTube channel that is entertaining as well.

__________________
Founder and Head Lounger @ The Life of Leisure Institute
Retired in 2014 at the Ripe Age of 40.
ExFlyBoy5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 02:02 PM   #17
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ls99's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4,792
THere was a time when news consisted of Who, what, when, where. Fact checked.

Now it seems like those became questions for speculation. Who? was with what? What happened where? Why did it happen? We will spend hours speculating, until some new mayhem happens then we will forget what we were talking about. Next up .....
__________________
There must be moderation in everything, including moderation.
ls99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 02:20 PM   #18
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Midpack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 11,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by ls99 View Post
THere was a time when news consisted of Who, what, when, where. Fact checked.

Now it seems like those became questions for speculation. Who? was with what? What happened where? Why did it happen? We will spend hours speculating, until some new mayhem happens then we will forget what we were talking about. Next up .....
We should be able to phase out our judicial system except for sentencing I guess. Our newscasters are able to arrive at a verdict long before the courts are as they're not encumbered by facts or evidence or all that bothersome stuff...
__________________
No one agrees with other people's opinions; they merely agree with their own opinions -- expressed by somebody else. Sydney Tremayne
Retired Jun 2011 at age 57

Target AA: 60% equity funds / 35% bond funds / 5% cash
Target WR: Approx 2.5% Approx 20% SI (secure income, SS only)
Midpack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 02:36 PM   #19
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,969
Quote:
Originally Posted by samclem View Post
I need to look into podcasts/downloads a bit more. It might be a good way to get thoughtful reporting/analysis when I can't be reading.
My two favorite sources (in addition to the hard copy of our local paper) are the BBC and taggeschau.de. The latter is in German, which provides the bonus of allowing me to retain some fluency. I get "Business Daily" and "Documentaries" as well as "In Our Time" in which a very smart man (Melvin Bragg) interviews 3 academic types on the covered subject- anything from Plate Tectonics to the Curies, Beowulf or some philosopher I never heard of. "Fresh Air" on NPR is also good; sometimes they cover the latest jazz album, which isn't my thing, or a book that's not all that interesting, but you can always delete things.

Probably any source will have its own right or left-wing bias, but I find these to be a good spectrum of viewpoints. I don't watch the news on TV. Useless.
__________________
athena53 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2015, 04:00 PM   #20
Full time employment: Posting here.
Tailgate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 880
I spent a number of years in the local news business (television).. now that I'm retired, my interests are anywhere else but watching local news. I get weather from the National Weather Service online.

General observations on local news in small and medium size markets (link to Nielsen TV Market ranking with TV household numbers)
1. some markets are hard news markets , like San Antonio is a hard crime market with every station leading with the bleeding headline. Some are not. Cities like Cincinnati & San Fransisco and markets with state capitals or major colleges usually are more sophisticated. Every station does research to try to keep up with what viewers want. It's weird to see the same branding slogans being used in multiple markets.
2. small markets have to hire rookie reporters... baby faced kids who don't have a clue (they just want to be on TV).. news management must keep them on a short leash, fact check everything and just when the light bulbs start coming on, the reporter jumps to the next market size
3. economics drives local news (ratings).. the #1 station in the market tends to be more credible than the #3 or #4 station... resources, size of staff, experience, news management savvy, etc come into play
4. the #3 & #4 stations tend to be more sensationalistic with local news (they need to scream to get attention)
5. most media bias on the local level is when the well being of a major advertiser trumps the negative news story they might be named in.. I never saw or heard of an instance of political bias locally, but can't say it doesn't happen. Most newsrooms try hard to not be biased. Sometimes the General Manager has an agenda... I have seen that trickle down to a news product. I worked with an extremely liberal news manager...maybe the most liberal person I've known, but he went miles out of his way to not let his personal beliefs affect the story by demanding factual, balanced reporting. That is being professional and I respected that very much.
6. most local news anchors are prima donnas...huge egos and generally a screwed up personal life..they are usually great guys and girls, just heavy on the egos... reporters all want to be news anchors.

Anyway...enjoyed my time in the TV biz...like every other industry it is undergoing rapid change and challenges. Lots of good people trying hard to do good work and a few knuckleheads screwing it up regularly.

I can't speak to network news and I think most cable news is really just 'entertainment' packaged to look like news...3rd tier shows like Nancy Grace are a joke. Lots of drive-by watchers.. kind of like watching Judge Judy and thinking she's really being a Judge.

Personally, I hate the demise of the local print newspaper. At a point in time they were the organization that provided in-depth, investigative reporting that held local governments and public officials feet to the fire. TV news cannot provide that level of journalism because of the medium and because TV has multiple competitors whereas newspapers are generally one to a market, so they don't have to compete. Competition generally promotes sameness, less risk taking and a bland product.

So print newspaper days are pretty much over... who's going to promote transparency? Bloggers? I don't think so.
__________________

__________________
Tailgate is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reporting "Life Events" to Healthcare.gov Rpharmer Health and Early Retirement 1 03-08-2014 06:04 PM
Big "C" Bad news, Good news. Long. ls99 Health and Early Retirement 24 06-01-2011 01:37 PM
Bad news, bad news, good news.... ziggy29 Health and Early Retirement 17 04-04-2011 10:26 AM
Problems 'Reporting" A Post Coach Forum Admin 4 03-30-2009 01:50 PM
Good news/bad news kz Life after FIRE 16 09-06-2006 07:13 AM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:23 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.