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Old 06-24-2007, 09:19 AM   #21
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One thing the current administration is demonstrating is that the checks and balances in the design of government may be inadequate.
Perhaps a better statement is: The current administration is inadequate!

Early on, I felt that the press was a bit unfair with GWB... all that crap about his military shenanigans and comments about him not being the brightest bulb in the pack... I am beginning to think I was wrong.

As far as Cheney is concerned... he is the VP that is not visible. I imagine him as the puppet master working the GWB strings.
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[quote=chinaco;528881]Perhaps a better statement is: The current administration is inadequate!

Early on, I felt that the press was a bit unfair with GWB... all that crap about his military shenanigans and comments about him not being the brightest bulb in the pack... I am beginning to think I was wrong.


We all knew guys like Bush in college, the rich @sshole who had all the breaks, did as little as possible to get by, was given opportunities the rest of us did not have or quite frankly want.

That said, I saw thru this guy way back. Remember the savings and loan scandals of the 80s?? Bush was right there. He was anionted the republican nomination for texas gov then the same for the republican party as president.

Sorry the american people deserve this lightweight, they had the chance to remove him in 04, they didn't.
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For me this whole issue is not whether you like the current administration, but whether the changing executive powers endanger a continued democracy. Look to any country without transparency and you will see the political opposition jailed, corruption and no outside capital investment.

Bush and Cheney may have the best intentions, but what happens when the next Nixon or Clinton or (your satanic choice here) is elected?
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For me this whole issue is not whether you like the current administration, but whether the changing executive powers endanger a continued democracy. Look to any country without transparency and you will see the political opposition jailed, corruption and no outside capital investment.

Bush and Cheney may have the best intentions, but what happens when the next Nixon or Clinton or (your satanic choice here) is elected?
Agreed, however the american people deserve the people they elect.

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One thing the current administration is demonstrating is that the checks and balances in the design of government may be inadequate.
As a Canadian your comment lacks credibility for the USA although I accept the fact that every and all decisions made in the USA don't agree with your opininion -- as far as the next USA election is concerned.

I've observed the relative actions of parlimentary vs. separate executive branches and I believe that there is an overall benefit in having a separate, strong head of state (not including QE-II) distinct from the legislative branch. It brings stronger checks and balances to the total system. The US Congress acts independently and frequently put bills before the Prez that get vetoed. They have much more power to investigate and challenge than would ever happen under a parlimentary form of government where, by default, the head of state was the head of the party in power.

The repubs and dems in the USA in Congress have a vested interested in doing what it takes for them, personally, to get re-elected that they will change sides in a vote or an issue. In the parlimentary form of government, the X's vote with the X's and Y's with the Y's. If enough X's cross the line, the government falls and it's back to the ballot box. It becomes little more than hearburn of the week, ala Italy.
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It becomes little more than hearburn of the week, ala Italy.
Ah, but Italy has topless politicians:
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Ah, but Italy has topless politicians:
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You are so right. All we've had recently is Monica. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that one of Bill Clinton's biggest failures was not fooling around with a better looking woman.
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Oh come on. Hillary is pretty hot.
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As a Canadian your comment lacks credibility for the USA although I accept the fact that every and all decisions made in the USA don't agree with your opininion -- as far as the next USA election is concerned.
are you saying that non-US citizens' opinions of the actions of the US government lack credibility? Why? If it's an educated and well-reasoned comment, why wouldn't it be credible? The actions of the US intensely affect Canada and other countries, so you can't even really argue that they don't have a "dog in the fight."

I haven't noticed many Americans being reluctant to criticize the Canadian medical system or the actions of the Iranian government. Are comments like that credible? What exactly makes something credible?
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Hey, she's got that sort of...man dressed like a pissed schoolgirl in a pantsuit hotness...
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are you saying that non-US citizens' opinions of the actions of the US government lack credibility?

2B, it just occurred to me that you might have been joking (not sure how back in your post the "field" of the smiley extends).

If so, please disregard my blathering.

Of course, you can disregard my blathering anytime you choose anyway
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2B, it just occurred to me that you might have been joking (not sure how back in your post the "field" of the smiley extends).

If so, please disregard my blathering.

Of course, you can disregard my blathering anytime you choose anyway
You're not on my "ignore list" so I'll reply. The comment was about "needing more checks and balances." Since he was a Canadian, he doesn't get to vote so his opinion is pretty much irrelevant on changing anything here. I was joking but poking at a bit. I wasn't trying to be ugly.

I them gave a mini-sermon on why the USA's 3 separate branches is more likely to have a more effective "checks and balances" than the Canadian (British Model) parlimentary form of government.

If Labour is in, then the whole of the executive and legislative branch are all in the same party and much more likely to march together than in the USA. There was a US president that was actually expelled from his political party due to all the conflicts generated.
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You're not on my "ignore list" so I'll reply.
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I them gave a mini-sermon on why the USA's 3 separate branches is more likely to have a more effective "checks and balances" than the Canadian (British Model) parlimentary form of government.
Well, the proof is in the pudding. With the exception of handgun possession, I would say that I experience more freedoms in Canada than in the US. I don't have to go to "free speech zones" to protest the PM, I can travel to Cuba on my Canadian passport without fear of legal action, and I feel far less likely that the government is listening in on my phone calls.

Since I am a dual citizen and pay taxes to both countries, by your criteria, I'm allowed to have an opinion on both places.

It's my opinion that the US would be a better place if the citizenry and government got MORE into the habit of taking the opinion of other countries and their citizens more seriously. Good ideas, even those about America, don't HAVE to originate in America. The checks and balances under discussion are being systematically dismantled in the US while everyone waves flags.
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Since I am a dual citizen and pay taxes to both countries, by your criteria, I'm allowed to have an opinion on both places.
You are allowed an opinion anywhere you choose to post. In fact, it is refreshing to hear diverse opinions. Readers are allowed to agree or not, hopefully with grace.
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True, but Bill doesn't fool around with her.
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I'll pay him his 50 cents in installments...two cents worth at at time!
You owe me 50 cents, not some trumped up annuity (2 cents at a time )!!!

Speaking of annuities, I've been thinking about buying one. They look like really great investments. The helpful financial advisor (old family friend, great guy by the way) selling me one within my IRA told my that I would get the S&P 500 return plus 3 percent in a good year, and in a bad year, I was still guaranteed 6% interest. I don't want to start any big fights or nasty discussions, but what are you guys' opinions on the pros and cons of annuities? Oh, by the way, I'd be funding this annuity with proceeds from a mortgage refinance I'm thinking about getting. My house is paid off now, but I can get a 5.75% fixed loan at 30 years and figure the annuity will outperform this interest rate even in bad years. Win-win-win, right?


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