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Our mechanic said that Toyotas made in Japan are great and that the ones made in the US suck.
And who said we US could not compete... we know how to deal with the competition.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:43 AM   #22
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And who said we US could not compete... we know how to deal with the competition.
I think all Acuras are made in Japan..........time to upgrade!!
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Toyota quality is slipping but Lexus (which is basically a high-end, rebranded Toyota) is still the best? Assuming Toyota problems include engine, drivetrain, transmission and frame, these are Lexus components shared with Toyotas. This doesn't compute.
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Toyota quality is slipping but Lexus (which is basically a high-end, rebranded Toyota) is still the best? Assuming Toyota problems include engine, drivetrain, transmission and frame, these are Lexus components shared with Toyotas. This doesn't compute.
I am only going off what a mechanic I trust told me, I don't have empirical data to back what he said. I think the Toyota problem is a newer thing. One would think a Lexus has higher quality parts in it than a Toyota..........maybe someone else on here knows??
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Components are one thing, who is doing the assembly and what the quality control is through the process and at the dealer probably makes all the difference between a good product and a bad one.

A few years back the german manufacturers decided that they'd focused on QC for so long that it just must be baked into their products, people and processes at this point, so they could pare back some of the oversight and still get a quality product. Since then the quality and reliability of Mercedes, BMW and VW have plummeted. So much for that theory.

So while Toyota and Lexus share a lot of common parts, how those are selected, fitted and tested as components, systems and the final product can be very, very different.

And apparently they are.
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A few years back the german manufacturers decided that they'd focused on QC for so long that it just must be baked into their products, people and processes at this point, so they could pare back some of the oversight and still get a quality product. Since then the quality and reliability of Mercedes, BMW and VW have plummeted. So much for that theory.

So while Toyota and Lexus share a lot of common parts, how those are selected, fitted and tested as components, systems and the final product can be very, very different.

And apparently they are.
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