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You've got that right!

My small address book is on AOL so no problem.

When I was working, I used Outlook's calendar and loved it. I don't really need a calendar very often now that I am retired. Instead of keeping a real calendar, I just jot down stuff in Excel at home.
My mind is still used to seeing the little boxes of an old fashioned calendar. Thus, I'm old fashioned in just print out a monthly calendar then using a pencil or pen to write down my appointments. I supposed, if I needed to go out and about regularly, then I'd do the calender in a smart phone thing. But, I'm not that important much of a busy body. .
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:48 AM   #42
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Does your current email provider allow you to forward your email to your new gmail account? If so, do it when you make the change.
Yes, that would be the plan... for at least 6 months to let things sort out.
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IMO Google already knws enough about me that I prefer them not parsing my email too. Having your own domain name frees you from relying on any one ISP for email services.
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IMO Google already knws enough about me that I prefer them not parsing my email too. Having your own domain name frees you from relying on any one ISP for email services.
I have Yahoo and Gmail accounts but along the lines of GrayHare's comments, here is food for thought.
PCM32: iPhone Tricks, iOS 9, and How to Keep Email Private - : PC Mike's Techcast
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I use outlook to collect my gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail, and other accounts in one place. If you only have one account, you probably don't need outlook
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I've been a very happy gmail user since 2005. Used Outlook before that. I began using email with DEC/VAX/VMS in 1981. I did not like Outlook. I love gmail's spam filter- I rarely see spam mail. Originally I thought I should sort/save mail into folders (as in Outlook), but found the search capability to be very powerful instead. And I never need to delete email.
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1. In Gmail, you can set it up to have email from most other providers forwarded to Gmail. You can then either keep that mail also on the original server or delete it. Once that email is in Gmail you can then respond using your other email address and not your gmail address. You can even forward email to a different gmail account to your mail gmail account.

2. So I never have to worry about a provider closing down and people not being able to find me, for most of my email I have my own email address for my own domain name that I pay for. I then have everything that goes to that email address forwarded to gmail and I respond using that email address. So people don't email at xxx@gmail.com. They email me at my actual personal address and then it is forwarded to gmail and managed there.

3. I have several email addresses that I forward to gmail. If your ISP is a typical one and you can forward to gmail I would do that probably even if you start using gmail as your primary email address. That way you wouldn't miss any email that were sent to the now dormant email address.

4. You can periodically download an Archive of everything that is on Gmail.
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That worked for me.
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I use hotmail and gmail based on usage/correspondence. I haven't used an internet provider's email addresses for at least 15 years.
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You may also want to think about using a service like Pobox Lifetime Email - Mailboxes, Email Forwarding, Spam Protection and Personal Domains for a cost of $20/year you will have an email address that you can use for any service (I have had my email for about 20 years now, and several email providers) It is basically a mail forwarding service, you can set it to forward to any email provider you like.
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I'm considering transitioning to gmail and wanted to get perspectives of members who have done this.

We currently use our internet provider's email address (probably for the last 10 years or more).... so we are tied to that internet provider to some extent. While we have been happy with their service and their cost is reasonable compared to alternatives, I want to be prepared in case a better alternative comes along so we can change without having to scramble to a new email domain and can do it leisurely now. We use Outlook on our laptops and prefer outlook to the internet provider's clunky web mail site.

We also both have android phones and currently have to sync addresses, calendars, etc. via a tether and I don't do it religiously and frequently find my address book is out of date. As I understand it, if we transition our address book, calendar and email to gmail then the synchronization of our laptops, tablets and cellphones is seamless since they all attach to the cloud. Is that correct?

I'm somewhat leery of having my email, calendar and address book in the cloud, but OTOH my email is currently on my internet provider's servers so perhaps that is not a huge difference. Any thoughts on that?

My plan would be to 1) send out a broadcast email to all my contacts informing them of the new email address, 2) set up my current email to forward all mail to my gmail account and send a vacation message informing senders of the new email address, 3) set up Outlook so it pulls from both my current email account and my gmail account and 4) over time change my email address with all our vendors and 5) at some point, perhaps in 6 months or so, kill off my internet email account.

So at the end I would have my gmail email account with my address book and calendar and email and it would seamlessly sync my laptop, tablet and cellphone and we could change internet service providers easily. Make sense?

I would appreciate any input from others who have made the transition.
I've been using gmail since 2005, transitioning from hotmail. I also helped others in my family migrate away from ISP e-mail for two reasons: I might want to switch ISPs and I trust Google with my data more than an ISP. So yes, moving over to Google makes lots of sense to me.

Most of your data is already out there anyways. My only concern with Google is that they really do know everything about me. I get e-mail confirmations for everything. They probably know more about me than I do. But I came to terms with that a long time ago.

The convenience of Google is worth it. I'm a Mac/iOS user and use Google for everything. When I originally migrated, I setup forwarding on my hotmail account to send everything to gmail. It probably took about a year before most of my contacts started sending e-mail to my gmail account and even longer for all of them. With other forms of communication though, it's become less of an issue.

The biggest benefit of Gmail is that you can archive all of your e-mails. I still delete the worthless e-mails, but being able to archive is nice. Plus, I imported all of my previous e-mails from hotmail. After 10 years, I'm only using 20% of my 15GB allocation, so space hasn't been an issue for me. If you're storing your e-mails locally, then I'm sure you could also import them into gmail (I'd do this with using a tag for imported emails).

I'm not sure that I would follow your plan exactly. First I would figure out what type of forwarding services your ISP offers. If all you can do is forward your e-mail to your gmail account, then I would set that up. Then I'd setup up a label in gmail to label all of your ISP e-mails so you can see what is forwarded to gmail. This will also tell you how many e-mails you're still receiving from your ISP. That's a nice benefit, since after 6 months, you can then see who's still using your ISP e-mail address. Then I'd go ahead and notify everybody and starting changing your e-mail address on all your accounts to point to your gmail account. I probably wouldn't delete the ISP address until you have to. There's really no harm in keeping it around.

As for viewing your e-mail, you should configure your gmail account to use IMAP, which is how all of your devices should pull your e-mail. I don't use Outlook, so I'm not sure if you can distinguish between archive and delete. Using my iOS devices, I'm able to either delete or archive e-mail in my gmail account and I use the web browser for viewing e-mails on the Mac. I would hope that Outlook supports the same, but based on my past history with MS, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't (but they are getting better, so maybe this has changed?).

The other thing I've done on my iOS devices is to make sure I only have one calendar, contact list, etc, provider specified in my settings. I looked at my wife's phone the other day and her contact list is a mess. This is because she has it sync'ing between three different providers. Even with Google, I still need to go through the contact list occasionally and clean it up, but it's a lot easier to do if all of your contacts are in one place. Since you're already on Android, this might be less of an issue (no iCloud to deal with).

Also, make sure to enable two-factor authentication on your gmail account. This is probably the most important account your have, since with it, you can reset passwords, etc, from any other site. Make sure to keep it safe.

Btw, you didn't mention it, but another benefit is Google Docs/Drive. I migrated away from Excel many years ago and Google's version works well, with the benefit of being able to access all of your data on all of your devices. The biggest benefit over Excel was the GoogleFinance function, which lets you easily get stock data into your spreadsheet (why does Excel make this so hard?).

Good luck with the transition!
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You may also want to think about using a service like Pobox Lifetime Email - Mailboxes, Email Forwarding, Spam Protection and Personal Domains for a cost of $20/year you will have an email address that you can use for any service (I have had my email for about 20 years now, and several email providers) It is basically a mail forwarding service, you can set it to forward to any email provider you like.
I was going to suggest something similar.

If you are going to go to the hard work of changing the email address that all the world send to you at, why would you want to make the same mistake again and hard-code your new email address to @gmail.com?

Sure @gmail.com is one of the state of the art email addresses today, but the same could have been said of @yahoo.com in the early 2000's and @aol.com prior to that.

What I setup was close to the "best of both worlds" allowing both use of gmail but along with my personal/portable email address that I "own".

- I registered my own internet domain name (ie @mylastname.org) and pay ~$10 each year to maintain the registration.

- My registrar ,mydomain.com, offers free email forwarding for multiple addresses. (ie myself@mylastname.org --> gauss@gmail.com, mywife@mylastname.org --> wife@yahoo.com etc.)

- I regularly use my gmail account to read and send the mail, but I have changed the default preferences of the Send Mail As and Reply To in gmail be my domain email address ie myfirstname@mylastname.org

- I then only publish my domain email to my friends etc, not the underlying gmail address.

In this case I can easily change where my email goes in the future with a quick configuration update to my mail pointers at my domain registrar (ie mydomain.com)

If you have interest and further questions feel free to PM me in case I get busy and don't check this thread regularly.

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I mainly use Outlook.com (the web-based version of Outlook, not the MS software). I like Outlook.com's interface far more that Gmail's. I would actually go so far as to say I hate Gmail's interface. However, I do like their calendar.
Since our kids' schools use Google services, I do have a Gmail account for all school-related business. And my work uses a Gmail calendar that colleagues all sync to.
I also have created several "aliases" under Outlook.com. Those alias email addresses belong to and are housed under the "parent" Outlook.com email address and I can access all their inboxes on one interface. It's nice to use the aliases for throw-away or junk email purposes. (Sometimes I want to sign up for a newsletter or something, but I know they will sell that email and I'll get spammed, so I NEVER give out the main email address for casual use.)
I also use an iPhone, and the Outlook.com email app is FANTASTIC. I can see all email from my Outlook.com (and its aliases) and Gmail and Yahoo addresses (I have a Yahoo email address since it's required for Flickr).
Five out of five stars for that app!
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Another fan of gmail here. Set up mail forwarding from your old address to the new - most do auto forwarding. You can set up 'reply as' addresses if needed but it's best to try to train all your regular contacts to update their lists.

Gmail has robust spam filtering and it's smart, trainable. You can set up additional folders as needed.

Finally - when you are choosing an address don't include any extra dots. gmail will allow addresses like my.name@gmail.com That leading dot doesn't play well with some service providers (same goes for other special characters) and you may find that messages won't get handled properly.

While you're setting up accounts, get a google phone number - just awesome for international travel.
Also explore google hangouts - a gmail account makes this much simpler. It's googles version of skype without the fees and porn-y contact attempts from various rentable friends.
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I didn't read every post so forgive me if this was said - I had ATT with Yahoo email for years and was delighted to find that when I dropped ATT, my Yahoo email address lives on. I use Thunderbird to pull in my Yahoo, Hotmail and GMail all into one email reader.
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Transition to gmail

Lots of posts to help you transition. Our approach is different, and you take your time, and find out if you ever loss your primary. Even if you change provider, still may have the email address.

Open a new Gmail account for yourself and spouse. Definitely use that account for calendar and other instances you want both to see emails. By doing this you can maintain existing primary email accounts, and forgo the angst of deleting the primary addresses you've held for so long.
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Definitely use that account for calendar and other instances you want both to see emails.

A google calendar can be configured so that multiple folks (with various/unique e-mail addresses) can view or edit. There is no need to share an e-mail address simply for calendar use...
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