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Old 06-02-2006, 08:16 AM   #1
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What an amazing collection of intelligent young talent, and they all deserve congratulations.

I cannot be the only one to notice how a small minority ethnic group made up the bulk of the contestants, and that their parents were recent Immigrants.

I have never even heard of most of the words these kids were asked to spell, a whole lot of smart young people out there.

Congratulations to them all.
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It was really amazing to watch, wasn't it?
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I cannot be the only one to notice how a small minority ethnic group made up the bulk of the contestants, and that their parents were recent Immigrants.
We were all immigrants at one time to this great land even the Indians. I was born in Europe and came here as a child.

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Well, Max, once again you've managed to turn a simple situation of hard work by motivated kids...

... into a racial immigration diatribe.

I don't think the kids would appreciate having their efforts characterized by your second sentence.

Sometimes it's just about the people and their dedicated efforts toward their achievements, not about race or ethnicity or even citizenship.

Are we expected to believe that you see this so frequently in your daily life, or are we just supposed to go with Occam's Razor and decide that you make posts like this to kick up a ruckus?
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That's ok Nords. An American girl kicked some Canadian girls a55 in the spelling bee. The canadian girl was part asian it seems, given her name. Them asians are smart though, right max?
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I got all the Hawaiian words! My girlfriend got the German words. The others we never heard of. I didn't see any as I was cooking..
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Old 06-02-2006, 03:14 PM   #7
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I don't understand what the fuss is about - unless I'm missing some ironic humor....
It's noteworthy and perfectly ok to mention that Indian-American kids are disproportionately kicking Spelling & Geographic Bee Butt.

Indian-Americans make up about 1% of the population yet last year they made up 15% of the Spelling Bee entrants.

Indian-Americans won the Spelling Bee in 1999 2000 2002 2003 2005

It's part of what makes this country so dynamic and great.

Top 3 finishers in 2006 Geographic Bee
http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?a...ullnews&id=210

Some background on perhaps why I-As' do so well in the SBs.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5...2,00160006.htm

I also notice that home school kids are disproportionately represented too...

Perhaps the sociologists here can explain this
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I don't want to belittle the effort, but all this focus on spelling accomplishments seems misdirected to me. *Memorization of something that can be tabulated (on paper or virtually) seems like a pretty big waste of time. *Are we worried that all the dictionaries are going to go up in flames and we'll need 8th graders to re-establish the written language? *Why not teach these kids to think? *to analyze? *to write? * :
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but all this focus on spelling accomplishments seems misdirected to me.
Dam strate. Me to. I figure that I'm allocating my neurons to do more useful work than store obscure spellings of words that violate all of the simple rules. If a word is hard to spell, change the spelling!
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Shoot, just type the word into google and it'll helpfully offer "did you mean ....."
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Nords, you may apologize any time,and , by the way, My Grand Mother was from India.

I read your comments about your daughter, she obviously comes by her attitude problem naturally.

Try to stay with the subject, you could say that these children were a credit to their Parents, that the Canadian Girl was Home Schooled, anything rather than to stir things up.
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I don't want to belittle the effort, but all this focus on spelling accomplishments seems misdirected to me. Memorization of something that can be tabulated (on paper or virtually) seems like a pretty big waste of time. Are we worried that all the dictionaries are going to go up in flames and we'll need 8th graders to re-establish the written language? Why not teach these kids to think? to analyze? to write? :
I don't disagree but it sure seems a heck of lot more inspiring for Prime Time than some pathetic "un"-reality show.
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Who'd she do tech support for?
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I don't disagree but it sure seems a heck of lot more inspiring for Prime Time than some pathetic "un"-reality show.
Well . . . you've got a good point there. *
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just be thankful DW doesn't hang out on this forum.

she got her doctorate on cognitive processes around learning to spell. She will notice your patterns of misspelling and draw psychological conclusions about you.

we would all be in deap trubble hear.
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Why not teach these kids to think?* to analyze?* to write?* *:
As an engineer with modest spelling abilities, I agree with the above.

Some tangential, perhaps un-PC comments:

DD is half asian but you have to look pretty closely to tell.* Most of her friends are asian.* I'm ok with that.* They are all on the honor roll are polite and take their shoes off before coming in the house They keep threatening to buy her a t-shirt with "50%" printed on the front.

She and her friends definitely think there is a difference having "asian parents" especially first generation.* For example DD thinks that the asian parents as compared to non-asian parents:

(1) Emphasize academics, homework.
(2) Restrict fun activites, such as going to the mall and parties.
(3) Always want to know where they are at and what they are doing.
(4) Don't want to spend money without a good reason.

On the other hand she thinks that her dad:

(1) Emphasizes academics, homework.
(2) Restricts fun activites, such as going to the mall and parties.
(3) Always wants to know where she is at and what she is doing.
(4) Almost never wants to spend money.

Anyway the term "Banana" is used to denote someone that is yellow (i.e. asian) on the outside and white (culturally) on the inside.* My DD called me an "Egg."* I'll let you figure it out.

On the other hand my US-born asian wife is know as the "cool asian mom."

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Memorization of something that can be tabulated (on paper or virtually) seems like a pretty big waste of time. *
Why not teach these kids to think? *to analyze? *to write? * :
Nah, we're gonna teach 'em to be nuclear engineers!
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MB, My Son in China is also called an Egg, he has been there so long, he thinks it quite funny.

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Memorization of something that can be tabulated (on paper or virtually) seems like a pretty big waste of time.
I agree that teaching kids to think, analyze, and write is necessary, but may I gently point out that it took a LOT of self-discipline, determination, and hard work to accomplish what these kids did. I don't think it's an either / or proposition.

My hat is off to all of them.

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Seems prudent, given that you're misspelling words in a spelling bee thread that you started...



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