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Re: UCLA versus UT Austin or Texas A&M
Old 03-14-2007, 06:07 PM   #41
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I seriously have a major issue with the Ivy league.
So, what is your major issue with the Ivy League? It sounds like money, is it?

By Ivy League, do you literally mean just the 8 schools in the northeast, or all schools that are academically world renowned including MIT, Stanford, CalTech, etc...

If your son didn't "work his arse off in the summer and when off", wouldn't he be in debt too for his bachelor degree?

Was your son an out-of-state student? He was at Rutgers at least 5 years ago. Today's in-state tuition is less than 10K.
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Re: UCLA versus UT Austin or Texas A&M
Old 03-14-2007, 08:21 PM   #42
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The question my son and I are wrestling with is: Is UCLA worth the extra $16,500 a year? My son knows that if he chooses UCLA, he will have to take a loan to help out, as the cost exceeds my allocated fund.
If your choices are UT or TAMU, it makes no sense to pay more somewhere else to get an EE degree. I didn't ready anymore than the first three posts so I don't know what else there is to consider if "education" and "future career" are the issues.

Both the Texas schools are top tier. They are recuited by every major company that hires EEs. Visit the campuses and let him decide. It doesn't matter. Don't overwork the problem.
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:26 PM   #43
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I agree. I have done my homework. According to USNews and NRC for EE, it's UT Austin, UCLA, and then A&M, in that order.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:51 AM   #44
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If he gets into Berkeley, definitely send him there... no brainer... otherwise, stay in Texas.

I would encourage an undergrad to go into some debt to attend a school like Cornell, depending on the field they want to enter... for many fields the opportunities from Cornell and other top schools are 10x what they are from solid middle tier schools... having been working for awhile now I can see that a personal network can work wonders, and attending top schools is the best way to build that network.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:26 PM   #45
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We lets see:

UT- 4 seed
UCLA- 2 seed
A&M- 3 seed

According to the NCAA selection committee, UCLA is the best choice.
yes, but that is fleeting - UCLA won national championship my frosh year, then after that has been nothing till this recent turn of events...
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:23 PM   #46
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I agree. I have done my homework. According to USNews and NRC for EE, it's UT Austin, UCLA, and then A&M, in that order.
Your son will never recoup his or your extra money it takes to go out of state when his alternatives are UT or TAMU. Now if you like to puff your chest out at cocktail parties about your son going to wherever, send him to MIT. There you'll drop 50K per year. He won't do any better in 5 years money/career wise than if he went to UT. But, everyone will be impressed.
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:30 PM   #47
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Your son will never recoup his or your extra money it takes to go out of state when his alternatives are UT or TAMU. Now if you like to puff your chest out at cocktail parties about your son going to wherever, send him to MIT. There you'll drop 50K per year. He won't do any better in 5 years money/career wise than if he went to UT. But, everyone will be impressed.
If you are still talking about UCLA vs UT Austin, then I'm in agreement with you.

MIT vs UT Austin is a totally different story, and it has nothing to do with chest puffing either. At least chest puffing and impressing others do not apply to me.

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:09 PM   #48
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My son is still involved with the AIAA DBF compititions every year.
http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/aiaadbf/
He was a team leader and pilot for A&M while in school. Now he is a judge and "rent a pilot" for the teams without experienced flyers. I attend these almost every year and have noticed some unexpected things.
The schools you would expect to be at the top every year never are. MIT has a great system, but their team has never been competitive. The military schools send a bunch of sharp looking kids, but I don't remember seeing them make a successful flight.
It's the teams from "ordanary" schools that usually take the top places. From memory....the teams that usually provide the compitition (not necessarily the winner) are Utah, UCLA, USC, VT, Columbia, UT, A&M, OSU, Florida......I'm sure I've forgotten some.
I guess the point is....The schools with the reputations of being top tier aren't the ones winning these contests. In fact, they haven't come close.
Here are some pics of the planes if you're interested. My son is in the A&M pic. Far right.
http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/aiaadbf/97plane1.html

Edit to add: Many ofthese teams include some EE majors.
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:26 AM   #49
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Thank you Poundkey for sharing the competition results. I see your point.
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What cool planes!

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If you are still talking about UCLA vs UT Austin, then I'm in agreement with you.

MIT vs UT Austin is a totally different story, and it has nothing to do with chest puffing either. At least chest puffing and impressing others do not apply to me.

I've worked with graduates from all over. I was a manager in the petrochemical industry for way too long. One thing I saw was that no school (including MIT) had any advantage over any other in managerial or technical promotions or salary. I used the "five years" comment to adjust for slightly higher starting salaries some schools' new grads get. I can attest to this premium disappearing in about 2 or 3 years.

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I guess the point is....The schools with the reputations of being top tier aren't the ones winning these contests. In fact, they haven't come close.
Different schools emphasize different things. It's not part of the degree plan so it often comes down to whether a faculty member is willing to organize the contest participation and whether they push it.

I was personally involved in a contest while in college but I wouldn't use my "winning" as an endorsement of the UW's engineering program or detracting in any way from the "losers" programs. It was nice to have that on my resume as a new grad. Now I'd never bring it up in an interview let alone put it on my resume.
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2B, thanks for sharing your experience.
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