Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 01:50 AM   #21
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
ladelfina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,713
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

We have a 2001 CRV and are quite happy with it. Does look like they have streamlined it since then, but ours is plenty capacious. Has had zero mechanical problems so far. Maybe look at a last year's model or one of those "dealer" cars with low mileage..
__________________

__________________
ladelfina is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #22
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,695
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

It also depends on what you want to do with your vehicle. I bought a rebuilt (salvage title) 1998 Jeep Cherokee for really cheap (<4K$) with <120k miles on it. Driving the heck out of it. With some good all terrain tires on it we have enjoyed some off road driving in CA, AZ & NV, including some recent off road drives in Death Valley. It is now the primary vehicle of my 17 yr old son and he has managed not to destroy it. The engine is bullet proof and gives really good mileage when driven gently and great power when required. This is the original small SUV and suffers from not the best interior space and a more truck like ride but if you want to go off road it will leave all the other SUVs previously described on the thread, well, 'in the dust'.
__________________

__________________
T.S. Eliot:
Old men ought to be explorers
yakers is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 10:45 AM   #23
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
FinanceDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,484
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Quote:
Originally Posted by yakers
It also depends on what you want to do with your vehicle. I bought a rebuilt (salvage title) 1998 Jeep Cherokee for really cheap (<4K$) with <120k miles on it. Driving the heck out of it. With some good all terrain tires on it we have enjoyed some off road driving in CA, AZ & NV, including some recent off road drives in Death Valley. It is now the primary vehicle of my 17 yr old son and he has managed not to destroy it. The engine is bullet proof and gives really good mileage when driven gently and great power when required. This is the original small SUV and suffers from not the best interior space and a more truck like ride but if you want to go off road it will leave all the other SUVs previously described on the thread, well, 'in the dust'.
I had a CJ7 "back in the day"..........and I could go offroad where even today's Hummers would fear to tread...........

One day I after a bad storm I spent the day driving over many large branches on an old logging road on my grandpa's acreage..........even his tractor got stuck.........not me..............

If you go off-road, Jeep kicks butt............
__________________
Consult with your own advisor or representative. My thoughts should not be construed as investment advice. Past performance is no guarantee of future results (love that one).......:)


This Thread is USELESS without pics.........:)
FinanceDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 10:56 AM   #24
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,697
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

I got my CJ7 up on two wheels in a parking lot when I saw a good parking space at the last minute and pulled the wheel hard.

No roll bar. Fortunately it dropped back on all fours, but I had scrub marks on the sidewalls all the way up to the rim.
__________________
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 12:00 PM   #25
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
BUM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mid Hudson Valley
Posts: 1,778
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Now we're talking Jeep

Do as suggested above. Get a used Cherokee ("XJ" ) 2000 or newer stick or autotrans. Check the undercarriage for evidence of rock climbing, lifting, and worst of all a dune buggy (that beach sand is a killer).

The thing is jeeps are sorta like VW's in the sixties. There are clubs, and PARTS galore. I'm rebuilding a 2000 for my daughter. Check out the NAXJA forum.

If I wasn't to lazy to post pics I'd show off my '01 Sahara. My plate is YEEEE HA!


xterra :P
__________________
In a panamax down by the river.
BUM is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 12:23 PM   #26
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 509
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

I was in a similar situation back in 2001. I narrowed everything down to the Honda CRV and the Toyota Rav4 after comparing all the features I wanted.

What was important to me was to have a very compact car for the city and general driving, but also have the SUV power to go into the mountains when I go snowboarding.

After comparing more, the Rav4 (all wheel drive) won, hands down. It has been the absolute perfect car for us. Highlights:

- Smaller in width/length than most compact cars so I can park anywhere in the city
- Had all wheel drive for the mountains
- Back seats can be folded down, folded forward (for more room), or even removed. I've used this many times for moving or helping people move.
- Adjustable cup-holders. Seems trivial, but considering it holds everything from a soda can up to a giant Gatorade bottle, I've been impressed.
- Lots of little compartments to hold stuff in the trunk area. They really maximized the usefulness of 'empty' space in the body by making accessible inside.
- As far as SUVs go, it gets excellent gas mileage.
- Quality has been superb. Mine is 6 years old, 75k miles, and running like a champ. I really should not have bought the extended warranty, but since it was my first time purchasing a car over $3k I wanted the "insurance."

I also got the Limited edition and made sure to get a sunroof, which I thoroughly enjoy.

Just buy it 1-2 years old with low mileage, and you'll find it's quality is still solid (certified pre-owned from the dealer was what I did), but the cost will be notably lower. Make sure you've done your research on Kelly Bluebook and Edmonds before you go, so that you know exactly what you want and how much you should pay.

ALSO, a negotiating tip. Rav4's don't have very large profit margins on them for the dealers... it's a high volume car, and that's how they make most of the money. With that, ironically, gives you better negotiating power because they're usually trying to move them quickly due to volume.

When I went to one dealership, I walked in and they tried to jack up the prices (I look young, for starters). After about 30 minutes of talking back and forth, the dealer finally asked me what it would take for me to consider buying the car that night. I thought about it, and I said I would *consider* buying it for $500 over invoice. Within 10 minutes he came back after "talking to his manager" and said he could make that deal.

I'm pretty sure I could have gotten it for invoice since there's often a lot of dealer incentives (usually Edmonds has information on that), so that's why volume sales are even better for the dealers.
__________________
Peaceful_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 02:18 PM   #27
Full time employment: Posting here.
mountaintosea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 553
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

In 2005 I bought a RAV4/4 wheel drive/stick. I tried the CRV. I wanted a 4wd with a stick. I've had it for two winters now and it's great. We don't get that much snow up here but when we do, it drove well. I bought it for $21,821 with taxes etc. It was in October just before the 2006s were going to come out. My Camry had been stolen and wrecked so there was no waiting. But I also didn't like the fact that Toyota said the 2006 would be bigger. Bigger I did not want.
Around town I get 25 to 26 mpg. On the road it's been 29/30 mpg. It seems to have more pep then the Camry ever had. Although my Camry was a bit old from 1993 with about 325,000 miles on it. But that's California for you. Anyway
I'm happy with my pick. It's my first 4wd. Just had front wheel and used snow chains for the prior 27 years, what a difference!
__________________
mountaintosea is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-04-2007, 06:53 PM   #28
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,616
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

We were driving out of the desert in our small SUV along a dirt/gravel road with deep washouts when we came upon family trying to turn around on the narrow road in their Volvo XC70. A boy was standing next to the station wagon as his parents looked flustered. I still remember his comment: "Dad, how come we don't have car like that?" Our vehicle: Lexus RX300. Get one.

OTOH, some of you may recall we were shopping for a car to replace our Camry. The choices were narrowed down to a CR-V, RAV4, Outback wagon and .... a Ford Freestyle. Pilots and Highlanders were too "soccer mom." The Ford was too cheap to pass up. But it's only getting paved roads for its lifetime.
__________________
LOL! is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-05-2007, 01:33 AM   #29
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 927
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Here's another vote for the Element. I've had mine for two years and LOVE it.

I built a platform inside to sleep on when I'm camping. The back seats come out in a flash pre-trip, the platform goes in, and my camping gear (stored in ready-to-go plastic bins) slides in below the platform like drawers. Everything's neat and find-able, and I can pull into a campsite late at night and be in bed in 3 minutes flat. I was going to get a pickup for this purpose but the Element drives much more like a car and I can access the front seat for a quick getaway if I ever need to.

Three of us backpacked and car-camped out of it for three weeks in Utah -- no worries.

When not camping I've hauled people, bikes, furniture, plants, lumber, a washer and a dryer (not at the same time!), new kitchen cabinets, etc. etc. etc.

Its floor and seats are waterproof and while you CANNOT hose it out, as some people suggest, it's great if you have a partner who likes to spill his coffee on your seats or a niece who likes to leave bananas in the back seat every time you give her a lift!

Consumer Reports says the Element is "fraught with compromise" but that's exactly what I wanted -- something big enough to sleep in and haul furniture, something with AWD for desert trips down sandy dirt roads, and something that didn't cost an arm and a leg to gas up when tooling around town.

All of this said, the suicide doors make carrying passengers a little awkward. If the person in the back seat wants to get out the driver has to open his / her door first. If I had kids old enough to get out on their own I might have chosen something different, but as the lone occupant 99% of the time, it works great and is a breeze to load.

One last thing - the bikes fit INSIDE. You can get a special attachment to attach the bike's forks to the floor, and Bob's your uncle.


__________________
Caroline is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-05-2007, 01:22 PM   #30
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 608
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caroline
I built a platform inside to sleep on when I'm camping.
Well, in the Outback, you simply fold the rear seats down and you have a platform
for sleeping.

But you won't find me saying anything bad about Hondas. I believe Honda is
THE gold standard of automotive reliablity.

__________________
JohnEyles is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-05-2007, 05:42 PM   #31
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 927
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Quote:
Well, in the Outback, you simply fold the rear seats down and you have a platform
for sleeping.

But you won't find me saying anything bad about Hondas. I believe Honda is
THE gold standard of automotive reliablity.
Right you are, Rusty -- you don't NEED a platform in your car or the Honda - you can just sleep on the seats, floor, etc.

What I wanted was a way to sleep without MOVING anything. I'm a backpacker by nature -- I like to keep everything organized and moving gear around the car every five minutes to make up a bed or to find something is NOT my idea of a vacation. (Unlike some people I could name who want to bring the kitchen sink along, but that's another story.

So the platform provides a ready-made bed (which I can sit up in, since the Element is so tall) AND an organized, accessible storage space underneath. No schlepping involved.

I did lust after an Outback too, however. If I wasn't doing SO much camping / packing / home repair, I would have bought one of those -- I have a friend who loves hers.
__________________
Caroline is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in
Old 03-05-2007, 06:13 PM   #32
Full time employment: Posting here.
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 608
Re: Vehicle Question - small SUV fans - please chime in

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caroline
So the platform provides a ready-made bed (which I can sit up in, since the Element is so tall) AND an organized, accessible storage space underneath. No schlepping involved.
Got it. Cool. I am a backpacker too. I just keep most of my stuff IN my pack,
and move it to the front seat when I sleep. Meanwhile, I have gigundo tupperware
bins BESIDE the bed for clothes, toiletries, and food. Of course, this grand scheme
crumbles like a wet Chips Ahoy when I have company; then, must setup tent or stay
in motel. Oh well. And, of course, Outback is not tall enough to do what you've done.
I suppose I could make the bed fill the entire rear width, and put the tupperware on top
of the bed, and move it all to the front seat at night-night. Or maybe get a big cargo
carrier on top ...

Quote:
I did lust after an Outback too, however.
Well, like I said, the Honda will probably last longer. But I think Subaru has improved
to where it's only half-a-notch or so below Honda (in reliability/longevity/quality).

__________________

__________________
JohnEyles is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Small SUV or Truck that can tow up to 5000 lbs Elderdude Life after FIRE 17 12-17-2006 08:01 AM
Question for Dory, others on a small business brewer12345 FIRE and Money 3 10-16-2005 11:04 AM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:52 PM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.