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Old 04-25-2007, 01:07 PM   #181
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Bright Eyed - Whats wrong with "sensible" laws? How about that it isn't up to the feds to ALLOW me to defend myself. It really saddens me to see how willing people are to give up their rights.

ok, so how does requiring someone to pass a test showing they know how to use one safely restrict your right to defend yourself?

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Re: Virginia Tech shooting and gun control
Old 04-25-2007, 01:10 PM   #182
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Brighteyed, I don't mean either of the comments below to be put-downs to you. This is just where we disagree.

Guns don't "fall in that line" because they are specifically separated from more regulated tools in the Bill of Rights. They were held separate because the people that formed our nation were terrified of a government that was better armed than it's citizens.

And from my point of view, I can't see how a person could know history (of our nation and others) and NOT be "paranoid", as you put it, where government is concerned.

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Old 04-25-2007, 01:12 PM   #183
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:14 PM   #184
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ok, so how does requiring someone to pass a test showing they know how to use one safely restrict your right to defend yourself?
Why are we talking about gun safety? These people were not accidentally killed. More people die from ladders each year than gun accidents. fatal gun accidents are remarkable low. You are solving a non issue.

BTW ... about 1000 people die per year accidentally.


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Old 04-25-2007, 01:16 PM   #185
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Who passes tests is determined by who writes and grades the tests.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test

"Literacy requirements for voting are almost as old as the concept of voting is itself. The theoretical basis for them was that illiterate persons were not sufficiently informed about the candidates and issues involved to be able to make a truly informed decision. In practice, however, the literacy requirement was often used to prevent those determined by the ruling class to be undesirable, such as the poor, racial and ethnic minorities, and other groups that it wished to see disenfranchised, from voting."

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Old 04-25-2007, 01:20 PM   #186
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i see there is nothing to be gained in this thread! better go build my trench and sit in it!
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #187
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It does seem rather pointless.
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What else would you like to talk about?
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