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Old 11-06-2014, 10:46 AM   #61
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I waited until 6:30, our poles close at 7. There was one person in line in front of me. It took about 5 minutes.
Did not know poles collected votes

I confess I do make lots of spelling errors.

As for voting, I did, I was the only one in line, after giving name had choice of two electronic voting machines.

THough after reading an article, it seems voting is really a futile exercise. In PA seems Philadelphia and Pittsburgh decides, all others gnash their teeth.

In the below article it explained why any ONE vote is irrelevant.

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The election season is when we most often hear hosannas to democracy. Every public figure, including supposedly hardboiled news people, urges us to vote. "Every vote counts," they say.
Balderdash.
As the late Gordon Tullock explains, "It's more likely that you'll get killed driving to the polling booth, than it is that your vote will change the outcome of the election." Think about the elections you voted in. Not one would have turned out differently had you done something else that day."


Election 2014 Is Over. Here's Why Your Vote Didn't Really Matter - Reason.com
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:01 AM   #62
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That's a good link from Reason.com. Some one-liners:

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Both parties have a vested interest in the essential status quo, whatever their differences at the margin.
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I'm surprised they didn't say that "safe-seat gerrymandering" makes your vote not count. Or rather, where you live means you automatically have to "support" the candidate that the district was drawn for.

I proposed a "when pigs fly" solution: How Do You Vote?
that might help, but it will never happen.
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:59 AM   #63
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I find your candor refreshing. The hollow argument about preventing voter fraud gets tiresome.
No, you are putting words in my mouth. You have your ID checked to buy cigarettes, why not to vote?

Voting is a privilege reserved for citizens, and we are only allowed to vote once.

Anyone who wants to vote can certainly meet the minimum requirement to present a valid ID. Or should we be the only country in the world that openly countenances voter fraud?

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No, you are putting words in my mouth. You have your ID checked to buy cigarettes, why not to vote?

Voting is a privilege reserved for citizens, and we are only allowed to vote once.

Anyone who wants to vote can certainly meet the minimum requirement to present a valid ID. Or should we be the only country in the world that openly countenances voter fraud?

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Sure, and let's not forget ending Sunday after church voting, mail in voting and advance voting - all in the name of stopping this epidemic of voter fraud. At least you admitted that you don't think everyone deserves a vote.
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Spent 14 hours tending a voting machine on Tuesday, saying the same thing to about 300 folks that came in. Had a good turn-out in our district, about 50%.
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Sure, and let's not forget ending Sunday after church voting, mail in voting and advance voting - all in the name of stopping this epidemic of voter fraud. At least you admitted that you don't think everyone deserves a vote.
Wrong again. You either cannot read, or cannot interpret what you read, or enjoy distorting others' opinions.

This is America, every eligible voter deserves a vote. Not more than one, and ineligible voters do not get any vote.

I commented on turnout. Well informed, at least moderately intelligent voters always vote. They are not responsible for the fluctuations in voter turnout. People who pay no attention and rarely vote, only vote when their emotions are aroused

Go over and listen to the interviews of Texas Tech university students.

Do you feel better when there is a heavy turnout of these voters?

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...........The further we get from democracy without letting anyone notice the better off we are.

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Wrong again. You either cannot read, or cannot interpret what you read, or enjoy distorting others' opinions.
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I'm so sorry. Rereading the above, I don't know how I could have possibly misunderstood you.
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I really don't have an issue with folks who choose not to vote, I wish more of the people that don't agree with me would stay home on election day.
I wish for that too.
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ND is now an ID required state but we still don't have voter registration.
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Another voter asked how to vote a straight party ballot for most of the candidates. I didn't even know how to answer that.
That is how I vote. I touch the screen for "straight party" and then for a few of the local offices touch the name of the candidate that is not highlighted to update my ballot. It saves time.

Our polls opened at 7:00am and I arrived at 8:30am. I was the 128th person to vote, which seemed good for a midterm election, but the precinct finished with a 42% participation rate.
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Sure, and let's not forget ending Sunday after church voting, mail in voting and advance voting - all in the name of stopping this epidemic of voter fraud. At least you admitted that you don't think everyone deserves a vote.
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I'm so sorry. Rereading the above, I don't know how I could have possibly misunderstood you.
I think you are misinterpreting what haha said.

I take it that it is his opinion that we would be better off if fewer uninformed voters cast a vote (and I think that is a reasonable statement). And that does imply that we would be moving further away from a 'pure' democracy. I did not see where he said anyone should be denied a vote. I think you put those words in his mouth, and he rightfully objected.

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