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Old 02-07-2008, 11:35 AM   #21
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McCain will be 72 in August.........
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Point of view is funny. I think of McCain as being very conservative.
I think his stance on the war is the only conservative stance he has.

His stance on illegal immigration, etc, are left leaning...........

The major media in this country haven't gotten on him at all like they are doing to Romney, which to me is a clear sign they see him as left of middle........
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I think his stance on the war is the only conservative stance he has.

His stance on illegal immigration, etc, are left leaning...........

The major media in this country haven't gotten on him at all like they are doing to Romney, which to me is a clear sign they see him as left of middle........
Look at it this way. Whats the alternate going to be Its like voting for the lesser of two weevils.
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McCain will be 72 in August.........
That alone disqualifies him, IMO.
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Here's my problem with McCain.
He told it like an old guy who is completely out of touch, but was thinking "Wait 'til they hear my great new hip joke." It would be a great new hip joke if it were 1998. That joke has been around for years (it was told on our joke thread in 2005), and the general theme has been around longer. Then I see video clips in which he tells that joke at rallies.
It's like McCain is the reclusive neighbor who thinks "What time is it when an elephant sits on a fence?" is a real knee slapper.
Maybe it'd be better if he played the saxophone or discussed his underwear preferences... or entertained the audience with his impressive knowledge of stream-of-consciousness vocabulary & pronounciation.

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And BTW, if you were a lawyer, would you vote for someone who called you a scum-sucking bottom dweller?
I had a shipmate who collected lawyer jokes during his time at lawschool...
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That alone disqualifies him, IMO.
Great, now he can go from a old out-of-touch Senator to an old out-of-touch President........

I think age and/or term limits should apply to Congress........
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I think age and/or term limits should apply to Congress........
Strom Thurmond, anyone?
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That alone disqualifies him, IMO.
Agreed that McCain's age should disqualify him. Also, I think that our country has to get beyond the politics of Vietnam,and McCain's views (like Bush & Co as well as the Clintons) are straight out of that history.

Obama is loved by the younger generation and they are going to face some very dicey problems in the future, especially the federal budget, social security and medicare. We need to give younger people a President and administration in whom they have confidence and hope so that they will have a chance to deal with those future problems now before they swamp the country.

If we stay with the same ole same ole, the younger generation will blame us "boomers" that we did not deal with these serious national issues. And,I'm afriad, that there may be a terrible generational backlash in future years against retirees by angry young voters.
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Romney just quit, so it will be McCain on the Republicans side as the nominee.
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I am surprised that Romney threw in the towel already. I figured he would keep going for a while.
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Romney just quit, so it will be McCain on the Republicans side as the nominee.
Looks like I am clairvoyant............
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Now that the choices are dwindling a bit - is there a good, (relatively) unbiased site that just lists position statements for each candidate?


Obama handles himself very well, and I can see how people are attracted to him on an emotional level, especially young voters, but I have very little idea what his positions are (other than wanting to get out of Iraq and pointing out that HRC voted to go into Iraq).

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McCain will be 72 in August.........

Wasn't Reagan close to 70?
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Wasn't Reagan close to 70?
Reagan turned 70 the month after inauguration. He got re-elected and served a second term, turning 78 the month after he left office. I believe he was the oldest sitting President in US history, but could be wrong on that.............

I think one of Reagan's best moments was when he was stumping for Bush senior at the Republican National Convention. He talked about taking some friendly jabs from different Washington folks about his age. He said something like: "Yeah, I KNEW Thomas Jefferson, he was a friend of mine", or something, which brought the house down..........
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Here's my problem with McCain. On Jay Leno, he told this joke:
What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
One is a scum-sucking bottom dweller, and the other's a fish.
It's not that I'm pro lawyer; let me see if I can explain it. He told it like an old guy who is completely out of touch, but was thinking "Wait 'til they hear my great new hip joke." It would be a great new hip joke if it were 1998. That joke has been around for years (it was told on our joke thread in 2005), and the general theme has been around longer. Then I see video clips in which he tells that joke at rallies.

It's like McCain is the reclusive neighbor who thinks "What time is it when an elephant sits on a fence?" is a real knee slapper.
I saw the Leno show and thought the same thing. He is just not very exciting. But I can't get excited about the Dems either. It will probably come down to the Republicans rallying around their man and the Democrats doing the same. Who the fence riders go with is the big question.
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What if McCain picked Huckabee (to appeal to the religious right) or someone else seen as more appealing to the more conservative side of the party? Would that help balance his November chances?

I still feel a dem has a better chance between the two this November, but who knows!
Not much else behind the Huckster... and his tax plan is just nuts (I know... another debate)..

I think he loses more than he gains if he picks Huckabee...


NOW, let's get some fire started... my sister would like McCain to pick EDWARDS... talk about going for the middle...
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Strom Thurmond, anyone?
If the idiots keep voting them in... what are you to do?

There is no age limit... only a heartbeat limit...
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If the idiots keep voting them in... what are you to do?

There is no age limit... only a heartbeat limit...
The only Senator I didn't mind serving "forever" was the late Senator Proxmire........
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If we stay with the same ole same ole, the younger generation will blame us "boomers" that we did not deal with these serious national issues. And,I'm afriad, that there may be a terrible generational backlash in future years against retirees by angry young voters.
That's not keeping me up at night... if they want to seize the reins and fix everything better than the Boomers have been doing, then they're welcome to it!
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