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02-22-2012, 04:32 PM
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Hasn't McDonalds been serving artificial beef for years now?
I think I'm a clone now. There always seems to be two of me around.
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02-22-2012, 04:35 PM
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When I first read the thread title, I thought that some researchers have been able to grow some filet mignon out of a Petri dish.
Now, the above would be cool, but something I would be reluctant to sink my teeth into.
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02-22-2012, 07:06 PM
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I'm going to clone myself, and have the clone eat the cloned beef, and see what it does to him.
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02-22-2012, 07:35 PM
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Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of a "real meat" debate coming from a poster named "frank"?
We were going to have hot dogs for dinner tonight, but now I have to check with the veterinarian first.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
"I've looked at clones from both sides now..."
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"Send in the clones..."
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02-22-2012, 08:08 PM
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I hear they found genetic material said to be from the mythical horse with a single horn in the center of its head. They have successfully grown an animal from these cells, and are calling it a Uniclone.
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02-22-2012, 08:14 PM
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Didn't we have another thread just like this?
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02-22-2012, 08:16 PM
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A dead cloned clown lies in the desert. One vulture says to the other "Does this taste funny to you?"
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02-22-2012, 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the laughs on this thread!
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02-23-2012, 05:42 AM
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good comments and lots of laughs. glad to see we still have a sense of humor.
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02-23-2012, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Proud
Cloned beef is not artificial.... it is REAL beef....
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What's new about this? We got it in high school at the cafeteria. We just called it "mystery meat".
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02-23-2012, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
I'm going to clone myself, and have the clone eat the cloned beef, and see what it does to him.
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If you fear a risk, it is most likely your clone will just say "Hey, you go first!".
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...being genetically identical might actually enhance food safety since people have already eaten the clones' forbears without ill effects.
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I would want to do an A/B test to see if the two steaks taste any different. Give me both for the price of one, and I would gladly take the offer.
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02-23-2012, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW-Bound
I would want to do an A/B test to see if the two steaks taste any different. Give me both for the price of one, and I would gladly take the offer.
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"I'll gladly pay you Twos-day for a cloneburger today"?
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02-24-2012, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank
I saw on tv last night, some researchers were going to clone beef. I saw that they had different people on there saying how they would and wouldn't eat man made beef. What do you think of the idea? what's next?
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This is what's next:
Test-Tube meat could replace farm grown beef
A Dutch scientist is using stem cells from cattle muscle tissue to create a burger in a lab.
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02-24-2012, 10:06 AM
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02-24-2012, 11:17 AM
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From the link posted by T-Al:
A Dutch scientist is using stem cells from cattle muscle tissue to create a burger in a lab.
And he told a conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science he aims to unveil the first one by October.
The scientist estimates the first burger will cost $330,000 to make. I dunno. Not a cheap burger. Besides it may not taste that good, and may look too scary to eat.
I would be more excited about researchers trying to grow new human organs, like kidneys, livers, etc... I can use a tooth or two myself, if they can get them to grow right from my jaw.
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02-24-2012, 02:51 PM
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This wouldn't be artificial beef any more than "test tube babies" are artificial people, IMO.
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02-24-2012, 04:38 PM
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There are 2 different things.
What the OP first discussed was cloning of an animal. I believe that the embryo would be grown as a fetus, then raised as any normal animal after birth.
The article that T-Al posted talked of growing beef tissue from a Petri dish using stem cells. This beef tissue is not connected to any animal.
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02-24-2012, 06:01 PM
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What was that sci fi story in which everyone was fed from this big mass of chicken tissue (called Chicken Little)?
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02-24-2012, 06:06 PM
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If it tasted good and looked ok, I'd eat it.
Sure, it sounds a little gross. But the idea of throwing a bunch of animal left overs into a hot dog sounds a little gross too, and I eat those now and then. Just a matter of familiarity I think.
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02-24-2012, 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Augustus
I am not a big fan of artificial/cloned beef. I think that eventually it will be detrimental to us because it is unnatural.
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Fascinating comment. What does it mean?
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