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Old 09-05-2010, 01:04 PM   #21
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Old 09-05-2010, 01:08 PM   #22
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At age 75 I want to continue to be healthy and financially independent, as I am now.

The rest is icing on the cake.

Like many articles, this article seems to be pushing the gloom-and-doom idea that baby boomers will never be able to retire and will have to work until death. Like many on this forum, I have not and will not accept that fate. I have no intention of preparing for another career because I have no intention of ever working for a living again.

My mother lived to age 98, essentially, and she retired in her 60's like I did. I see no reason why I can't do the same, especially with a little bit of LBYM and lower expenses than she had, and I doubt that I will live longer than she did.
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Old 09-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #23
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This is the sentence that annoyed me most, in what was generally an elitist, condescending piece.
" But to stave off psychological ennui, we’ll need to aim higher — to assume that, as long as they’re healthy enough, people will continue to work into their 70s. Just as we ask children, “What do you want to be when you grow up?” we should start asking adults (i.e., ourselves), “What do you want to be between ages 50 and 75?”
Psychological ennui? Is that what retirement is? Perhaps to the author of the essay, it is.
Hey, the (still working) author had to pump that crap out on deadline. I can't even remember the last time I felt it necessary to use the word "ennui" in a paragraph, let alone channel Spock.

I'm impressed with her chutzpah in accusing Marc Freedman of not working hard enough.

For all I know, writing books on glamour might be a lifelong avocation where it's difficult to discern when dementia has set in. Cosmetic surgery won't pay for itself during those later years, either, and it's tough to estimate those expenses for an ER budget.

But it certainly qualifies her to write on retirement as much as it qualifies me to write on glamour.
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Old 09-05-2010, 01:47 PM   #24
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Buried in this column is a crucial assumption: that people over 65 will be retired.
They’ll withdraw from active engagement with younger colleagues, from productive problem-solving, from the world outside their seniors-only enclaves. They’ll spend 20 or 30 years playing golf, watching TV, and chasing people off their lawns. They’ll occasionally visit the grandkids, but mostly they’ll wait to die. They won’t learn anything new.
This is where the author goes completly off the tracks, read no farther. He does an about-face into how to get a job.
Good thing I'm taking a class with all age groups from 19-ish up to my age and older. Maybe I should cram my brain with interesting stimulating learning to fall back on when I'm over 65. Okay, back to my study of Jean-Marc Nattier's "Terpsichore." I'd post a link but it wouldn't be safe for work.
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I want to be the same as I am now at 71 looking foward to another 20 years of health, happiness and love.
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....For all I know, writing books on glamour might be a lifelong avocation where it's difficult to discern when dementia has set in. Cosmetic surgery won't pay for itself during those later years, either, and it's tough to estimate those expenses for an ER budget.

But it certainly qualifies her to write on retirement as much as it qualifies me to write on glamour.
Personally, I would pay anything to read Nords's writing on glamour.
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At 75 I want to be watching my grandkids starting at college.
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Definitely NOT on anyone's payroll for doing something like writing articles (that seems to equate to deadlines, which seems to equate to W*RK! - BLEAH!!!) at 75!
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At 75 I want to be 18 again. Barring that I want to be alive, healthy and not working.
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What do you want to be when you're 75?

On this side of the grass still married to DH. However that is twenty years from now in my case and six in his. Who can really think that far ahead and do you want to?

I'll be 75 and he will be 88. Hummmmm. I'll take it one day at a time and thank the Lord for each one of them.
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I think the author expects that one should retire when one is not healthy enough to work anymore. So that means one should only retire when one is too feeble, sick or old to work anymore; which also leaves one too feeble, sick or old to enjoy retirement. That's demented.

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I think you will discover that quite a few articles written by (still working) authors/journalists, conclude this very same thing.

It IS demented!

Personally, I think many journalists are simply unable to dissociate from the "work ethic" indoctrination that most of us were raised with. And this type of cognitive distortion is the end result. It also might explain inability to recognize that extended leisure can be active, healthy, and psychologically stimulating/satisfying (the opposite of ennui).

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" ditto " ditto " ditto " ditto "
So we're no longer debating my avocation, just trying to set a price?
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At 75, fifteen years from now, I want to be still able to ride a motorcycle, fly an airplane, take good photographs, read a good book, and get laid.

Not necessarily in that order.
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I hope you're kidding.

A couple of weeks back in England we met a cousin of DW's who is 75 and he and his wife had just got back from Germany visiting relatives where he had visited a German Emergency Room after crashing his bike and splitting his head open. He says he'll consider wearing a cycle helmet from now one.

We'll be meeting them again in 2 weeks in Niagara.

I want to be just like them at 75 - extremely active, financially strong, and having a blast in their 15th year of retirement.
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