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Old 08-12-2013, 10:18 AM   #61
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Thanks for all the advice. I think I would not be inclined to go out of the way to extract some severance package because I was starting to think about leaving in a year or so before this meeting. I think it would just make it tougher to transition away from work, to invest time, money and emotionally in some legal process to try to obtain some lump sum.
I'm not too convinced on the need to see a lawyer either. It may be a wise option, but it also may be distasteful for you to leave that way, though remember that you didn't start it.

At a minimum if it becomes more clear that they are trying to push you out, you could at least ask what your incentive is to train your replacement and leave before you were ready to. The money itself was nice for me, but I found that it served as a convincing push out the door and I didn't look back and wonder whether I should've stayed longer. It showed me that the time was right and the decision was made. Emotionally it really did help me.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:53 AM   #62
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Remember this when security is watching you clean out your desk before they escort you to the door. You have to look out for yourself. Your company turned this guy loose on you and as such, is not your friend. You may not be able to extract any additional severance, but wouldn't it be a lot nicer to have been briefed on strategy by a competent attorney on how to handle it to your advantage as opposed to being humiliated and tossed out like over ripe fruit?

I find the idea of dealing with a lawyer distasteful for stuff like this, but it is probably worth having a chat with one to see if this looks like an age discrimination case. If so, get your ducks in a row and be ready. If not, get ready to move on.
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OP, you are being played for a sucker. How many games do you want to play with them? Remember, you are playing against the house.

Run, do not walk. I hope you have marketable skills.
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I find the idea of dealing with a lawyer distasteful for stuff like this, but it is probably worth having a chat with one to see if this looks like an age discrimination case. If so, get your ducks in a row and be ready. If not, get ready to move on.
Usually it is lost money, but when you find a way to whack someone who is treating you badly, it's worth all the ones that didn't turn out.

Remember Joe Kennedy-don't get mad, get even. If you can, get well beyond even.

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Usually it is lost money, but when you find a way to whack someone who is treating you badly, it's worth all the ones that didn't turn out.

Remember Joe Kennedy-don't get mad, get even. If you can, get well beyond even.

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Definitely.

Personally, I would also be acquiring and deploying one of these: ThinkGeek :: The ThinkGeek Annoy-a-tron
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Sounds like mgmt is considering cutting personnel and they're sending out feelers so that they can gather info to make the most cost effective labor cuts that they can.
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It strikes me as highly inappropriate for a manager to delve into your personal finances as part of your job review. These two things have nothing to do with each other and how much money you have in the bank is none of his business.

Depending on your mood, it might be worth a polite letter to him --

Or HR. For his file.

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Initially, I thought if I were to leave, I'd give them a month or two for the transition (on top of the month of unused vacation). We've been burned by people leaving suddenly in the past and having to scramble.

Even if I don't feel any loyalty to management, I wouldn't want the onus to fall on my co-workers, who'd be given the divvy'd up work. You wouldn't think the management would want to have to increase the burden on them either.

But then again, maybe they wouldn't care.
And what would be the difference to how they will treat your co-workers when they tell you to clear out your desk one Friday afternoon. If they are going to screw you they won't have any remorse for doing the same to your co-workers. You don't owe them anything more notice than what is stated in your contract. However, I would want them to make the first move and maybe be on some kind of financial hook.

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