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Old 07-06-2014, 12:22 PM   #21
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:42 PM   #22
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DW had major cancer surgery in her late 40s. She was "proud" to turn 50 - and every year since, birthdays are a "good" thing. Amazing the perspective you can gain by life events.

Now, the only thing that bothers her is when some folks think I am her son - and we are actually the same age! She has beautiful white hair and I have very dark brown hair (the Ronald Reagan look.) Go figure!
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In photography, it is when you don't even bother trying to hide the skin wrinkles. You adjust lighting to minimize them and not highlight them, you use Photoshop to minimize/deemphasize them, but if you eliminate them the result looks silly.
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In photography, it is when you don't even bother trying to hide the skin wrinkles. You adjust lighting to minimize them and not highlight them, you use Photoshop to minimize/deemphasize them, but if you eliminate them the result looks silly.
Yep. Some of us would no longer have a face.
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:33 PM   #25
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DW had major cancer surgery in her late 40s. She was "proud" to turn 50 - and every year since, birthdays are a "good" thing. Amazing the perspective you can gain by life events.
True that!

Although I will admit it is hard to keep that perspective 100% of the time, despite having gone through frightening life events myself. We all need to be shooken up a bit now and then to remind us of what is truly important.
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Older people began calling me "sir" when I was in my 30s, usually when i was still wearing a jacket and tie as part of my work outfit (they switched to full-time casual in 1998 when i was 35). That did not make me feel old. but when the younger crowd began calling me "sir" when I was not in formal workwear, that began making me a little old.
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If you're (still) working in the high tech industry, it's best to be under 35. Otherwise people assume you don't know much.
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Recently the waiter at a Swiss Chalet restaurant addressed me as "dear". It's a shame I won't be going back, because I like their chicken.

Memo to all waiters: My name is NOT Dear!
I expect to be called "Sweetie" by all NY diner waitresses. It does not bother me.
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What is a certain age?

5 years older than my current age.
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Sweetie in NYC [as well as just across the Hudson in NJ], and Hon in Baltimore, are expected and would be missed.

What I dislike (because it sounds so condescending) is "young lady" or any form thereof. I didn't like it when I was young, and I despise it now. Oddly enough, Mr. A., who's much older than I am, doesn't mind being called "young man," even though I sense the same "you're obviously old, but we'll pretend we don't notice" condescension by the speaker. I guess I'm just sensitive to being talked-down-to.

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Sweetie in NYC [as well as just across the Hudson in NJ], and Hon in Baltimore, are expected and would be missed.

What I dislike (because it sounds so condescending) is "young lady" or any form thereof. I didn't like it when I was young, and I despise it now. Oddly enough, Mr. A., who's much older than I am, doesn't mind being called "young man," even though I sense the same "you're obviously old, but we'll pretend we don't notice" condescension by the speaker. I guess I'm just sensitive to being talked-down-to.

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I can't see any reason to get emotionally moved by any of this. The only people who have tried that young man baloney on me are sellers of Real Change, a local paper sold by certain street type people some of whom weirdly think that might be an inducement to buy their useless rag.

We are continually manipulated skilfully (Amazon, Facebook) and unskillfully like the Real Change sellers young man approach. I guess the only antidote is to recognize it, and mount some sort of active defense.

I believe that this was originally a French literary phrase applied only to women, perhaps not too old to have dropped their interest in romance or their interest to men, but also obviously no longer young. Recently it has also been applied to men, IMO a rather ridiculous idea since for the most part men are not sensitive about their age.

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I can't see any reason to get emotionally moved by any of this. The only people who have tried that young man baloney on me are sellers of Real Change, a local paper sold by certain street type people some of whom weirdly think that might be an inducement to buy their useless rag.

We are continually manipulated skilfully (Amazon, Facebook) and unskillfully like the Real Change sellers young man approach. I guess the only antidote is to recognize it, and mount some sort of active defense.

I believe that this was originally a French literary phrase applied only to women, perhaps not too old to have dropped their interest in romance or their interest to men, but also obviously no longer young. Recently it has also been applied to men, IMO a rather ridiculous idea since for the most part men are not sensitive about their age.

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I'm in your camp on the age thing. I doubt many are pandering that bad with the terms. It probably isn't meant in any different way than when someone says hello to a 5 year old boy or girl and refers to them as a "young man" or "young lady". At least if nothing else, it sounds better than "OG" "Old Timer" "Old Lady" or "Old Hag".


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The owner of the coffee shop I frequent, who is my age, often calls me young man. Do not find it offensive at all. At times I reply: thanks for the vote of confidence, usually to laughter by bystanders.

In Baltimore on my first visit to a restaurant/bar the waitress offerd a second beer, with the preface of hon. Not being familiar with the custom, I smiled and said: gee one beer and I am hon, do two beers get us in bed? She did not have a comeback. Having a foreign accent is a plus in times like that. No she was not a two six pack lady either

As for being called sir, it is ok. At times I reply: don't call me sir, I used to work for a living. A paraphrase from my Army days when the correct response by enlisted men to being called sir was: Don't insult me, I work for a living.

All in all, do not recall being direspected by anyone based on age. There are plenty of equal opportunity abusers in official/controlling capacities, in those cases I make a mental note: a$$hole, smirk and get on with life.
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I'm a little bemused at all this.
I really couldn't care less what people call me, and things like "dear," "hon," "darlin'," etc. have never bothered me. I just chalk them up as local habits and ignore them.

Same goes for "sir." It startled me at first, but I quickly got used to it.

Conversely, I routinely call people sir and ma'am, but with a smile. Nobody has ever seemed to be offended, and they generally smile back.

I guess part of that stems from my military background, where those titles were routine.
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What I wanna know is...what is the age when 'we should know better'?
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"Know better" to not do what?
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