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02-06-2017, 02:14 PM
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#1921
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Location: Flyover country
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Originally Posted by Walt34
This used to irritate me as well. Then I read the book Traffic and realized they're doing it correctly and most efficiently using the available pavement.
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Yes!
Most people don't realize it, but the zipper movement (using all available lanes) is by far the most efficient way through.
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02-06-2017, 02:14 PM
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#1922
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Dutchess County
Posts: 1,599
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Originally Posted by Walt34
This used to irritate me as well. Then I read the book Traffic and realized they're doing it correctly and most efficiently using the available pavement.
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Yup and to those who object I give a hardy middle finger.
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02-06-2017, 02:21 PM
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#1923
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 26,896
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Quote:
Originally Posted by braumeister
Yes!
Most people don't realize it, but the zipper movement (using all available lanes) is by far the most efficient way through.
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Yep, and I just wish they would post signs to that effect, so people like RetiredGypsy don't get mad at us for doing it correctly!
If you think about it for a second (this is the "Thinking, Fast and Slow" concept/book I've talked about before), it makes perfect sense. Why would you have a section of roadway, and not let people use it? It is just a wasted resource, causing more traffic backup. If they wanted you to merge way back there, they would have put the gate way back there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow
OK, RetiredGypsy , now that you know better, please stop getting mad at us, and tell ten friends, and tell them to tell ten friends!
Oh, and maybe an apology is in order for the "rectal-cranial inversion" crack against your fellow er.org members? Hmmmm?
-ERD50
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02-06-2017, 02:33 PM
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#1924
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 6,506
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Originally Posted by John Galt III
You're walking up to an empty intersection. A lone car pulls up to the stop sign and has plenty of time to take off and get out of your way. But he/she wants to just sit there for 20 seconds while you amble up, so he/she can politely wave you through the intersection as he/she watches you walk through the crosswalk. What's up with that? Guess I'm just ungrateful or something.
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You obviously have not lived in a small town. Around here it is the expected way. Even if it takes a WHOLE MINUTE OR TWO.
You know you live in a small town when three cars in a row are a traffic jam. And don't use a turn signal, since everyone knows where you are going.
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02-06-2017, 02:46 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: The Beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains
Posts: 2,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
This used to irritate me as well. Then I read the book Traffic and realized they're doing it correctly and most efficiently using the available pavement.
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+1
Why else is that lane there if not to be used? Do the zipper!
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02-06-2017, 03:14 PM
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#1926
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
This used to irritate me as well. Then I read the book Traffic and realized they're doing it correctly and most efficiently using the available pavement.
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I agree. The most efficient way is to use both available lanes and merge via the zipper method at the end.
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02-06-2017, 03:21 PM
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#1927
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
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The only problem with the zipper merge (and I am on team zipper 100 percent) is when the state highway department post big signs on their Interstates in construction areas that say "Merge now!" complete with exclamation marks, a mile or so before the actual merge point. I'm thinking those states don't want the zipper. So we merge when those signs tell us to.
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02-06-2017, 04:52 PM
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#1928
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Galt III
You're walking up to an empty intersection. A lone car pulls up to the stop sign and has plenty of time to take off and get out of your way. But he/she wants to just sit there for 20 seconds while you amble up, so he/she can politely wave you through the intersection as he/she watches you walk through the crosswalk. What's up with that? Guess I'm just ungrateful or something.
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You obviously don't live in California. Peds have the right of way and that's one hell of a fine if you don't let them cross and wait until they step onto the curb on the other side.
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02-06-2017, 06:55 PM
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#1929
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 331
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Originally Posted by O2Bfree
How about when someone calls, and without asking, "Are you busy right now?" or "Do you have a few minutes to chat?" they launch into a 20, 30, 45 minute monologue on whatever comes to their mind. Then it's, "Oh, well I should let you go now", but they don't! They just start talking again! I'll usually put it on speakerphone and continue making dinner or giving CPR or whatever I was doing. But aarrgghh! As an introvert with a prepay phone plan, I resent having my minutes chewed up this way.
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Is my mom calling you, too?
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02-06-2017, 07:49 PM
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#1930
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 979
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERD50
Yep, and I just wish they would post signs to that effect, so people like RetiredGypsy don't get mad at us for doing it correctly!
If you think about it for a second (this is the "Thinking, Fast and Slow" concept/book I've talked about before), it makes perfect sense. Why would you have a section of roadway, and not let people use it? It is just a wasted resource, causing more traffic backup. If they wanted you to merge way back there, they would have put the gate way back there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow
OK, RetiredGypsy , now that you know better, please stop getting mad at us, and tell ten friends, and tell them to tell ten friends!
Oh, and maybe an apology is in order for the "rectal-cranial inversion" crack against your fellow er.org members? Hmmmm?
-ERD50
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I'm not talking about the zipper method. I'm a huge fan of the zipper method. I've been using it since before I had a driver's license as a lowly recruit in boot camp. The zipper merge is efficient, and kinda cool to watch the coordination. I don't care that people in the closing lane are getting ahead of people in the continuing lane; that'd be extremely hypocritical of me as someone who used splitting lanes in California on my motorcycle to its full advantage.
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Originally Posted by RetiredGypsy
... they wait until the last second to try and squeeze in.
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I mean they wait until their mirror is hugging the traffic cones and try to push into the front of the line because they're too important to wait. That behavior I see as no different than those who jump out into the next lane and gun it while weaving through traffic to make sure they're the first one to the onramp/intersection/next red light/etc. Or the people who go through the continuing lane until the last second and then suddenly try to cut into the front of a turn lane.
So unless that pertains to anyone in particular, the "rectal-cranial inversion" crack doesn't apply.
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02-06-2017, 08:22 PM
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#1931
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2006
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lose vs. loose
Lose vs Loose
Would it matter to anyone if it was $100.00 vs. $00.100?
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02-06-2017, 08:50 PM
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#1932
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 979
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustward
Would it matter to anyone if it was $100.00 vs. $00.100?
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I'd hate to lose one while the other's loose change.
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02-07-2017, 07:36 AM
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#1933
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Real estate web pages that want me to register before I can look at details about properties. They always seem to want name/email/phone number; I'm just in the "wondering" stage* and don't want to be bothered with follow-up calls or emails.
* We are nearing the end of depreciation on a rental property, and I'm exploring the idea of doing a 1031 exchange for a property on the Outer Banks. There's a lot of research to do before looking at properties.
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02-07-2017, 07:39 AM
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#1934
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustward
lose vs. loose
Lose vs Loose
Would it matter to anyone if it was $100.00 vs. $00.100?
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I'm at a loss. Oh, or is that lost?
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02-10-2017, 07:29 AM
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#1935
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Here's my pet peeve of the day:
There's some sports show in the late afternoon on TV and they have a series of the most ridiculous questions like "Do you question if the Falcons should have won?" or "Do you question if Tiger should have withdrawn" or "Do you question if golf should be played in the rain?"
It's an interesting ploy to imply controversy--or create discussion-- on what is merely a news item but I find it sooo annoying. Maybe it's the poor use of the word "question" instead of "wonder", but the posits are so stupid to begin with.
Snowbirding in FL we eat out a lot and this show is on in a lot of places we frequent so it's hard to avoid. Plus, the three stooges on the show (especially the old guy in the middle) all look stoned out of their minds most of the time. "Do you question why this show is even on TV?"
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02-10-2017, 07:31 AM
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#1936
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: May 2013
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02-11-2017, 11:29 AM
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#1937
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,796
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"Speaks to" where one should use "talks about" or "refers to". As in "I've looked through quite a few posts on websites, but was not able to find anything that speaks to this." This horrible (mis)usage popped up in academia a few years ago, and then oozed on over into politi-babble used by pundits on TV.
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02-11-2017, 11:37 AM
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#1938
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Join Date: May 2008
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It drives me nuts when old people say, I am nn years *young*.
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02-11-2017, 11:30 PM
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#1939
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Spending the Kids Inheritance and living in Chicago
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02-12-2017, 06:58 AM
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#1940
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Well, today it is DW
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