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Old 07-18-2007, 07:16 PM   #41
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***** has managed to get hundreds of people to talk about him for years. The joy that has given him is immeasurable.

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Old 07-18-2007, 08:09 PM   #42
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Well, hello, twaddle!

The forum's been exciting, yes. I manage to miss things as they are happening, but it is still better than TV. (Ours broke.)
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:10 PM   #43
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Well the hunting thing is sort of unclear. It seems he wants to farm me.

The minute I hear a banjo playing, I'm outta here.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:16 PM   #44
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Bunny: I'm glad one of us understood what he was saying and it wasn't me...
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:23 PM   #45
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Oh I dont get it either. Dudes off his meds. Or desperately needs some.

But its kinda funny to watch a pair of lonely brain atoms slowly circle around each other in some sort of horrible decaying elliptical orbit...producing words at random intervals in semi-sensible sentence structures.
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:48 PM   #46
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Do you think he believes that the winner of an argument is based on the number of words used? Everytime I find myself duped into reading one of these links, I realize about 30 seconds into it that I'll need to take a break halfway and get a snack because each post is a novelette.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:56 PM   #47
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Well heres the 90 second ***** primer.

Some folks who endured him over at TMF or morningstar (I forget which) who have actual psychiatry experience determined that he has some psychosis...I think it was schizophrenia...based on watching his discourse over several years.

Some folks think he's just someone who retired too early with not enough money and either very bored or desperate to figure out how to sell some books to make ends meet.

I have a different take. I think that he's definitely got some sort of mental issue/boredom thing going on and he's a bit of what I like to call an 'organizational wrecker'. He likes to approach well reasoned people and present them with a series of discussion topics which have some marginally accessible root points, but then he throws in enough additional disconnected stuff that an organized person will comment on or challenge.

He then takes these well reasoned people and wanders with them off of the root points deeper and deeper into la la land. Until they figure out that he's really not particularly interested in a reasonable discussion and they figure out he needs to have a burning bag of poo left on his doorstep. After enough of this 'hilarity', the forum in question bans him.

It seems early retirees are exactly the sort of logical, well reasoned people that Rob finds easiest to bait and trap. Or farm or whatever is in his brain du jour.

He has a little pet, John Russell (aka JWR1945) that I think actually is eating some of the horsepuckey that Rob throws off and John carefully crafts financial models and data based arguments that have giant holes you can drive a truck through, but in aggregate they sort of back up the vague principals that this clever but limited troll bases his little routine on.

The origins of this, still fitting within the 90 seconds (i'm a fast typer, hope you're a fast reader) is that ***** felt that 4% was too much and that stocks were overvalued, and that we should all spend less and duck and cover until equities became more fairly valued. As I mentioned before, by his metrics, equities have been overvalued since the early 90's.

All fair and reasonable. Until he gets into the conspiracies, death threats, and all the rest of the nutty baggage.

But it seems he has no trouble looping newbies into his routine, and he's got a faithful stable of fascinated groupies over at another ER board that seem to be doing a good job at his care and feeding.

He also has a knack for digging in and finding out personal details about people and then trying to use them as leverage on people. Their real names, where they live, their kids names, where their grandchildren go to school...that sort of thing
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:04 PM   #48
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I was suckered in for about two days. I noticed one thing; you ask the guy to give you solid math and he replies with a long post about how he's asked Dory for an open debate on the topic. The poor man's debate parry, basically.

And, it should take someone about 5 minutes on Google to figure out my real name, my favorite forums, and the type of camera I shoot with. I notice since I've had this nickname, though, that some people released a crappy computer a long time ago and other people have started using the same nickname.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:10 PM   #49
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Dont feel bad, I was suckered too for a while. I came into the ER forum world about the time he was re-allowed to post at a couple of sites by the forum administrators, allegedly for some kind of cash payment. That caused a bunch of users to stop going to those forums and start their own, and one of the forums that let him back in ceased operating after most of its users left.

Anyhow, I had no history on the idiot, and everyone seemed excessively inflamed about the whole thing. I screwed up and stood up for him...he seemed rather reasonable at the time. He's a lot nuttier now.

Which interestingly enough seems to be the case with a slice of ER's. Early retirement actually does make you crazy sometimes, it seems.
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The ***** message doesn't seem to be catching on just yet
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The ***** message doesn't seem to be catching on just yet
Neither did Betamax.
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The er status forum is down for maintenance. Should we have an er status forum status forum?
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:57 AM   #53
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I was wondering the same thing and decided no. We can always use the ER forum to keep track of the er status forum, right?
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I was wondering the same thing and decided no. We can always use the ER forum to keep track of the er status forum, right?
No way. If they both go down at once, the universe would wrap back in on itself and squirt from the fabric of space/time like a watermelon seed.

The status forum was very slow yesterday, then I got a message that the forum was being moved, then that it was having a database rebuild. There was no notification that there would be downtime. And the place needs a moderator or two.

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Done! Early Retirement Staus Forum Status forum. I already posted an update on recent happenings.
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Darn it, I just realized it would have been much funnier if, instead of creating an active forum, I had put up a status page that my board was down for maintenance. Oh well.
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Jim...what do we do if the status forum status forum goes down?

You didnt heed my warnings. The end is near.
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Jim...what do we do if the status forum status forum goes down?
Hey, I've done my part. It's your turn to put up a monitor forum.
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