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Old 08-01-2015, 11:26 AM   #61
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We have a large redwood deck. I power wash every year and apply Flood deck treatment. It has UV protector and adds some color (medium brown). It also repels water, deck looks great when done. Its about $130 for 5 gallons and thats enough with a little left over for touch up on the part of the deck that gets full sun all day.
I had to treat the under part of the deck last year (read tired arms!). I was starting to get some fungus....that will eat the wood quickly! This spring I had to replace 2 boards that had cracked and did not feel solid. The deck is 20 years old and still looks good. I'll prob. replace the whole deck a couple boards at a time over the years....
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:55 AM   #62
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... DW wants me to apply Behr DeckOver 4X. I don't like the artificial look of it to begin with, and there's no turning back once you put that stuff down. Looks like stripping it off if it peels, cracks or otherwise would be a nightmare...
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As I described in an earlier post, the deck coat that my builder used in his 1-year warranty work to put over the original oil-based stain looked great, but started to peel 6 years after it was put down. It looks terrible, and pressure washing will not take the rest off. I am simply waiting for the rest to continue to peel off, and reapply a better oil-based stain where the bare wood shows.

On youtube, there are many homeowners whose decks start peeling after only 1 year or 2. Mine lasts longer, but then what was put on it was not the same thick type.

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We have a large redwood deck. I power wash every year and apply Flood deck treatment...
What I should have done is to reapply the oil-based stain every year or two. People desiring a longer lasting finish with thicker covering coat are bound to be disappointed with an end result that will take even more work.

If the deck is a goner with lots of decay and splinter, then a thick coat may buy you another year or two, but you'd better start making room in the budget for a new deck.
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I live in the Midwest and my pressure treated wooden deck is on the north side of my house. About 1/3 of the desk gets direct sunlight, and there is a shady portion under the eaves that tends to mildew. I have cleaned and stained my deck twice since buying the house and I'm at least a year past when it needed it again.

The first time I used a commercial cleaner which is basically bleach, and borrowed a friends pressure washer. Then I applied a clear stain, which I believe was the classic Thompson's Water Seal. That looked good for 1 - 2 years, but by year 3 the deck was heavily mildewed in spots again and dirty looking.

For round two I bought the Armour All brand cleaner and used an "As Seen on TV" power wand attached to my garden hose to clean the deck. With a little help from a scrub brush I was able to get the mildew cleaned up this way. Based on Consumer Reports recommendations, I went with a tinted stain instead of the clear coat. The can in the garage reads "Thompson's Water Seal Deck & House Oil Stain." Against directions, I applied two coats to the worst boards, which really soaked it up. The results were pleasing and lasted longer as CU claimed. Still, I'd put the upper limit of a tinted oil stain at 5 years or so.

As others have mentioned, staining the balusters is a PITA. I believe I took to using a rag and rubbing the stain in that way. Making maters worse, I don't even use my deck as I prefer to sit on my driveway facing the street in the evening so I can say hi to my neighbors and listen to the radio that's in the garage while sipping a cold adult beverage.
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I built our deck - uh, just went looking for the photos to verify when - but it pre-dates my digital camera. Maybe 15 years ago, big, two levels, built in planter, benches, copper tube balusters to preserve the view, all cedar decking. I think it took me about 8 months. Hand dug around 20 holes for the posts, soil was to rocky for a power posthole digger. Love the deck, great for entertaining, lounging, coffee in the morning, margaritas on hot summer afternoons, etc.

But maintaining it has had me regretting building it with wood. Tried a couple of different stains, and I'm sure some are far superior than others but with constant weathering refinishing every year or two is best, going three years is just too long. If the deck surface becomes unserviceable before we move on to some future home, most likely replacement would be masonry which could be done as it sits on a gentle south slope. But for now, we keep doing the every two-year minimum refinishing.
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The local store has a brand other than Trex, but its name escapes me at the moment. They have 3 different grades. I priced out the mid grade, and the cost was about $10K before labor.

I am thinking about doing it myself, replacing a plank at a time whenever I feel like it.


With the wife staining the inside of the spindles while I do the outside on a ladder because of the height, it takes but 3 days. And it's not 3 full days either. Maybe 3 or 4 hours each day.
Thanks for the intel on the time it took you. The DW is leaving tomorrow to go visit some friends out of state (4 days) and wanted to get it done while she was gone along with appropriate 'lounging' (what fun is retiring early of you can't lounge around?!). So I'll spend 3-4 hours on it in the AM and hopefully will finish in time for her return.

Or, if anyone is in the Atlanta area is interested, I have a fresh keg of Red Hare Ale on tap...you're welcome to swing by and grab a brush and a frosty mug!

Sent from my mobile device so please excuse grammatical errors.
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Seems there is a lawsuit on the Restore 10X product....


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bleach and dish soap to clean, and stain with a quality product. Don't you dare buy stain or paint at homedepot/lowes.

Not much help without an alternative... also, it seems they do sell other products besides their own...
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I came across another problem....

Some that I have looked at has a max temp to apply at 90.... well, the forecast has over 100 for the next 10 days!!!!

Maybe just go with the waterseal and do something else next spring.... still looking and reading though...
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This is a website I found when I was looking at staining my deck--it is composed of deck specialists who build and stain decks for a living. Lots of good info there and the reality is that there is no ONE product that works everywhere. Your climate and weather have a huge impact on which product you should use. You can post a query and usually someone responds--at least that worked for me!

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This is a website I found when I was looking at staining my deck--it is composed of deck specialists who build and stain decks for a living. Lots of good info there and the reality is that there is no ONE product that works everywhere. Your climate and weather have a huge impact on which product you should use. You can post a query and usually someone responds--at least that worked for me!

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Thanks for the link....

I had seen this one, but went right by it earlier... looking at it again I should have stayed on it...

Now just some more reading...

But, with the review, I am not going with the Thompson water seal clear... no UV protection and will not last but one year....
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I forgot to mention that my neighbors used the Behr Deck Over product on their deck this spring. They were getting ready to put their house on the market, and needed to make the deck more presentable. They had good things to say about how easy it was to use, but I thought the end result didn't look as nice as my oil stained deck. Kind of plasticky looking if that makes any sense.
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Not much help without an alternative... also, it seems they do sell other products besides their own...
armstrong, sikkens, etc. the big box stores sell the bottom quality formula's.
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Our Woodhaven deck is 30 years old. For the 26 years we've owned it, I used Thompson water seal, sprayed on, every two or three years, with no problems. A half hour job. The deck was always light grey, natural. Water always beaded.
Two years ago, decided to try Olympic stain to match the add-a-room siding. Disaster... uneven color, and because the deck is always in the shade, green mildew that will take hours of power washing. A problem we never had before. Also, the boards are now shrinking.

Live and learn... If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Only a few years to go before I can't handle the rustic woodland setting, and the seawall that is deteriorating faster than I can repair it. The name of our park is Woodhaven, but everyone who lives there, knows the the real name is Workhaven.
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....Only a few years to go before I can't handle the rustic woodland setting, and the seawall that is deteriorating faster than I can repair it. The name of our park is Woodhaven, but everyone who lives there, knows the the real name is Workhaven.
That is what high school kids are for... DW has a small harem that do her heavier duty gardening chores, stack firewood, etc.
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OK... here are the pics


Wow... do not know how to attach properly...

There is a pic of the deck I have not cleaned... the whole deck looked like this or worse...

A pic of the section I have cleaned...

And a pick of the top left part of the pic up close to show the surface cracks....
Great job of cleaning, what did you decide to use to finish it? I will never use a coating like restore or even a solid body stain on a deck with full sun exposure. After many years and many decks, we now have an Iron Wood deck, but it is so hard it won't take stain. However, as mentioned by others, the best product we have found is Penofin oil. It is made from a brazilian tree oil, and can be purchased clear or with pigments. It really soaks in, and protects and has a UV inhibitor, my 2 cents. A little pricey, but you can shop it down.

For others, we used some Trex composite about 10 years ago on a large home. It did not wear well, and got very discolored (white flakes) in the sun. I know they improved this, but I would be concerned in direct full sun like in Texas. Our did not last on the east side (partial sun) of a home is the NW.
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