Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-14-2006, 08:44 PM   #1
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
REWahoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 42,080
What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Associated Press

CHICAGO – If you're over 50, this test developed by researchers at the San Francisco Veterans Affairs Medical Center attempts to calculate your risk of death within four years. Of course, it's not foolproof, but the researchers say it can give you a rough idea of your survival chances. The test appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association:

1. Age
60-64 years old, 1 point
65-69, 2 points
70-74, 3 points
75-79, 4 points
80-84, 5 points
85 and older, 7 points

2. Male or Female: Male, 2 points

3. Body-Mass Index: Less than 25 (normal weight or less), 1 point
(Calculate by multiplying height in inches times height in inches; then divide weight in pounds by that total; then multiply the total by 703.)

4. Diabetes: 2 points

5. Cancer (excluding minor skin cancers): 2 points

6. Chronic lung disease that limits activities or requires oxygen use at home: 2 points.

7. Congestive heart failure: 2 points.

8. Cigarette smoking in the past week: 2 points.

9. Difficulty bathing/showering because of a health or memory problem: 2 points.

10. Difficulty managing money, paying bills, keeping track of expenses because of a health or memory problem: 2 points.

11. Difficulty walking several blocks because of a health problem: 2 points.

12. Difficulty pushing or pulling large objects like a living room chair because of a health problem: 1 point.
SCORE

0-5 points: less than a 4 percent risk of dying
6-9 points: 15 percent risk
10-13 points: 42 percent risk
14 or more points: 64 percent risk.

Note: Researchers say the 1-point penalty for having a body-mass index under 25 (normal weight or less) is based on findings that being underweight is a health risk for elderly people.
__________________

__________________
Numbers is hard

When I hit 70, it hit back

Retired in 2005 at age 58, no pension
REWahoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-14-2006, 08:52 PM   #2
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
JPatrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,494
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Looks like I'll be bugging people here for quite some time.

So do I understand that you get bad points for being underweight, but not overweight??

__________________

__________________
JPatrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-14-2006, 08:59 PM   #3
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
REWahoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 42,080
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPatrick
So do I understand that you get bad points for being underweight, but not overweight??
That's the way it looks. I'm guessing an overweight condition severe enough to create mortality issues might manifest itself in other questions, like 11 or 12.
__________________
Numbers is hard

When I hit 70, it hit back

Retired in 2005 at age 58, no pension
REWahoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-14-2006, 09:06 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
haha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hooverville
Posts: 22,382
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

They climb all over you for BMI> 60 your whole life; so you finally lose that extra weight. Then you turn 60 and suddenly you're wrong again.

Medicine!

Ha
__________________
"As a general rule, the more dangerous or inappropriate a conversation, the more interesting it is."-Scott Adams
haha is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-14-2006, 11:44 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,083
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

My only exposure to the risk of death is being a male.
I now regret my decision not to get that sex change I dreamed about years ago.
__________________
I look to the present moment because that's where I live my life.
MJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 07:41 AM   #6
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
Dawg52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Central MS/Orange Beach, AL
Posts: 7,434
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

I would rather not think about it. Let's day dream about bikini's instead.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1007905391[1].jpg (2.0 KB, 94 views)
__________________
Retired 3/31/2007@52
Full time wuss.......
Dawg52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 07:46 AM   #7
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Outtahere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,677
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

The morning local news was talking about this test, one said it doesn't take into account that you could walk out the door and be hit by a bus, or maybe that's the 2 points for being male.
__________________

Dogs aren't our whole lives, but they make our lives whole. - Roger Caras
Outtahere is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 08:08 AM   #8
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,505
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Note: Researchers say the 1-point penalty for having a body-mass index under 25 (normal weight or less) is based on findings that being underweight is a health risk for elderly people.
Exactly! That lawyer Cheney just shot knows this truth all too well.
__________________
azanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 08:43 AM   #9
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
JPatrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,494
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Outtahere
The morning local news was talking about this test, one said it doesn't take into account that you could walk out the door and be hit by a bus, or maybe that's the 2 points for being male.
Hey, blonde females get hit by buses.* How many points should they get??
__________________
JPatrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 12:25 PM   #10
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
HFWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lawn chair in Texas
Posts: 12,964
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Damn, I thought you said "get hit by busts"... :P
__________________
Have Funds, Will Retire

...not doing anything of true substance...
HFWR is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 01:07 PM   #11
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
brewer12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 16,391
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JPatrick
Looks like I'll be bugging people here for quite some time.

So do I understand that you get bad points for being underweight, but not overweight??

When I spoke to an exec who ran the LTC insurance business at one of the top 3 companies in the field, he told me that their biggest concern in underwriting is not the morbidly obese (which is an issue for them), but the underweight people. Why? They tend to be frail and can be incapable of doing basic stuff forthemselves, yet not actually in bad enough health to drop dead for a long time after they become bedridden.
__________________
"There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."



- Will Rogers
brewer12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 01:11 PM   #12
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
JPatrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,494
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

What I gather from all of this is I get to keep my extra 20 pounds(hey I'm tall) and my Corona habit so long as I don't go to the store on the bus.....

Live is good
__________________
JPatrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 01:26 PM   #13
Moderator Emeritus
Martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: minnesota
Posts: 13,212
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

BS on the underweight stuff.

My grandfather died at 99 and probably weighed 99 pounds at the time.

Right now in our waiting room are several nuns. I would guess that at least half are over 90 and that they all weigh less than 100 pounds.

Ever notice that catholic nuns seem to live a long, long, time?
__________________
.


No more lawyer stuff, no more political stuff, so no more CYA

Martha is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 02:26 PM   #14
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,875
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha


Ever notice that catholic nuns seem to live a long, long, time?*
I have noticed this. I wonder how it seems to them, like
do married men live longer than single men, or does it just seem that way?



JG
__________________
MRGALT2U is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 02:58 PM   #15
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,083
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha
Ever notice that catholic nuns seem to live a long, long, time?
Hey, they get free room and board, are married their Lord (I think) and get to harass kids in catholic school. Doesn't sound like a bad life.

PC disclaimer: No offense meant. Hope I don't cause any riots.

MJ (Mary Joseph)
__________________
I look to the present moment because that's where I live my life.
MJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 06:58 PM   #16
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
cute fuzzy bunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Losing my whump
Posts: 22,697
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha
Ever notice that catholic nuns seem to live a long, long, time?
I think they just LOOK like they've lived a long, long time.
__________________
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Just another form of "buy low, sell high" for those who have trouble with things. This rule is not universal. Do not buy a 1973 Pinto because everyone else is afraid of it.
cute fuzzy bunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 09:37 PM   #17
Recycles dryer sheets
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 228
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

It's not just looks. There are famous longevity studies being done on nuns. For some reason they live a loooong time, IF they don't smoke. See http://www.modern-psychiatry.com/longevity.htm

Another factor associated with long life is number of orgasms per year. If you're in the 100-orgasm per year club, there is a definite benefit in terms of longevity. So how does this correlate with the nun studies? I don't even want to think about it.
__________________
LRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-15-2006, 10:12 PM   #18
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Helen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,343
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LRS
There are famous longevity studies being done on nuns. For some reason they live a loooong time
Maybe bladder infections are an untracked reason for death ?

-helen
__________________
Helen is online now   Reply With Quote
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?
Old 02-16-2006, 02:52 PM   #19
Moderator Emeritus
Nords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Oahu
Posts: 26,616
Re: What's Your Risk of Death in the Next 4 Years?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LRS
If you're in the 100-orgasm per year club, there is a definite benefit in terms of longevity.
Hmmmm... giving or receiving?

About that longevity benefit-- living longer or meeting an unfortunate demise?
__________________

__________________
*
*

The book written on E-R.org, "The Military Guide to Financial Independence and Retirement", on sale now! For more info see "About Me" in my profile.
I don't spend much time here anymore, so please send me a PM. Thanks.
Nords is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will you stay 5 more years for $1,000,000? honobob Other topics 18 12-17-2006 10:31 AM
Retiring from the Armed Force. 20 to 30 years. Sam Other topics 14 03-29-2006 09:46 PM
Five years to FIRE danearnold Hi, I am... 7 01-28-2006 06:58 PM
Choosing cash/short term bond/bank/cd for low risk money lazyday FIRE and Money 3 10-23-2005 01:49 PM
$50 a day? No way! patnbj FIRE and Money 112 01-30-2004 09:21 PM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:17 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.