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Old 10-18-2004, 02:42 PM   #21
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John, thanks for not voting.

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Re: Who Are You Voting For?
Old 10-18-2004, 02:55 PM   #22
 
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John, thanks for not voting. * *

Ditto. - Although we probably have Illinois Locked up in our favor anyway and John knows it!
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Old 10-18-2004, 02:57 PM   #23
 
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Yeah, Illinois is locked up. I am truly embarrassed
to live in this state.

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Old 10-18-2004, 03:16 PM   #24
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I feel the same way about Texas sometimes!
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:29 PM   #25
 
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I had heard...bearing in mind I didnt research this myself...from some fairly credible people that Nader really knows his stuff in some areas, and definitely knows what to say to fire some people up...but in many policy areas he doesnt know enough.
I thought you wanted 'leadership'. You're not 'flip-flopping', are you ? When it comes to intelligence, and having a good understanding of the issues, I'm pretty sure I know who's #3.

With regards to democracy in America, Nader is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:44 PM   #26
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I am one HECK of a flip flopper. Its all I wear in the summer time.

If my memory serves, Nader has shown one poor grasp of the economy.

Not saying I think Bush is the best or even second best.

What I'm saying is they all make me sick to my stomach.
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:54 PM   #27
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I was 'born' a Democrat in SW Washington logging country. I'll die a Democrat where ever that may be. The family tree also contains a number of Eastern Washington 'born' Republicans. Candidates/or their names are not important.

I am drifting slowly toward curmudgeonly and more libertarian views as I age.
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Old 10-18-2004, 04:04 PM   #28
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I am voting for Kerry, and I think it is a good choice. But frankly, I would vote for a pumpkin on a stick if it would get Bush out of the White House.

It's really pathetic that there's no real way for a third party to be a genuine choice. Yeah, that's democracy at work - only two choices, and most of the time, not much of a difference between the two.
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Old 10-18-2004, 04:46 PM   #29
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ROFL A pumpkin on a stick...

I think that has a better chance of making the ballot than Nader does...
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If all TH wears in summer are flip-flops that must be
a sight to behold!

I like Bush, smirk and all. I think you will see a hard
drive to cut the pork out since he will not have to be
re elected again.

Like his policies or not, you know where he stands
on issues. Can't say the same for the flip-floper.

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I may llive to eat these words, but I think Kerry fans are like Red Sox fans they "believe" but they picked the wrong team.

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Old 10-18-2004, 05:22 PM   #32
 
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It does not matter how it turns out. They have certainly
picked the "wrong team". I wish I did not understand the "Kerry fans". The sad thing is that
I do.

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Old 10-18-2004, 05:41 PM   #33
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Hi JG,

The thing of it is...I think this time it does matter who wins. Candidates are (forgive me) are polls apart on all issues. Many voters dont like either candidate and are looking for the "subtract answer" instead of studying the platforms and records.
Alot of ambivalence.
I read today that this is the first time in decades that the Tribune newspaper chain endorses nobody.


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Old 10-18-2004, 05:55 PM   #34
 
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It's pretty simple if you are a Yellow Dog Democrat Like myself.

I'm Pro- Choice
Pro-Environment
Pro-Separation of Church and State
Pro Freedom of LifeStyle
Pro Social Security


And if you don't think there is not a difference in the two candidates then you don't understand the issues.
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:58 PM   #35
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It's pretty simple if you are a Yellow Dog Democrat Like myself.

I'm Pro- Choice
* * *Pro-Environment
* * *Pro-Separation of Church and State
* * *Pro Freedom of LifeStyle
* * *Pro Social Security
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And if you don't think there is not a difference in the two candidates then you don't understand the issues.
I'm for Bush and I'm also Pro everything you listed, but to an extent.

I don't want to get into every detail, but to give a couple of examples, even though I am pro-social security, I don't want the social security rates going up from the current rates since people in the poorest tax brackets already pay more in FICA taxes than in federal taxes. I'm pro freedom of lifestyle as long as gay lifestyles aren't made mainstream and taught to my 5 year old in school and made part of childrens' cartoons.
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Re: Who Are You Voting For?

Hey, I have a pretty private yard.

I'm a dyed in the wool republican/conservative, but I cant vote for Cheney. I mean Bush.

Too full of crap.

Just to head it off, this is not an endorsement of Kerry, he's full of crap too.
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I'm Pro- Choice
Pro-Environment
Pro-Separation of Church and State
Pro Freedom of LifeStyle
Pro Social Security

I'm for Bush and I'm also Pro everything you listed, but to an extent.
Yeh Bush is,
1) Pro-Choice only if it effected his offsprings
2) Pro-Environment as long as you don't polute his and his friend's private fiefdoms and the hell with the rest of public America.
3) Pro-Separation of Church and State but allow the religious right to get a piece of the government pie
4) Pro Freedom of LifeStyle as long as it doesn't conflict with his.
5) Pro Social Security. If he could eliminate it he would, but he would try to weaken and slowly dimantle it.

I'm for the lesser of the 2 evils Kerry/Edwards

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This is my last post on this thread. My politics are
pretty well known (radical right wing). Basically
I believe that liberals are the biggest threat to this
country by far. (worse than Osama Bin Laden, all other terrorists,
famine, plague, economic troubles, earthquakes
and nuclear proliferation combined). Whenever i encounter a
lib/Dem/ Kerry backer, I want to take them by the shoulders, shake them and ask "What the hell is wrong with you?" Actually I know the answer but still manage
to get pretty worked up. When I take over, all liberals
will be boiled in their own juices. You will note the lack of a smiley face.

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Old 10-19-2004, 08:26 AM   #39
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This is my last post on this thread. *My politics are
pretty well known (radical right wing). *Basically
I believe that liberals are the biggest threat to this
country by far. (worse than Osama Bin Laden, all other terrorists,
famine, plague, economic troubles, earthquakes
and nuclear proliferation combined). *Whenever i encounter a
lib/Dem/ Kerry backer, I want to take them by the shoulders, shake them and ask "What the hell is wrong with you?" *Actually I know the answer but still manage
to get pretty worked up. *When I take over, all liberals
will be boiled in their own juices. *You will note the lack of a smiley face.

John Galt
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Politics aside, would be good mental health on your part to be careful not to shake the wrong persons shoulders.
Could be interpreted as an excuse to use you like a "speed bag"
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Hey, I have a pretty private yard.

I'm a dyed in the wool republican/conservative, but I cant vote for Cheney. *I mean Bush.

Too full of crap.

Just to head it off, this is not an endorsement of Kerry, he's full of crap too.
I agree with TH. I wish that previously mentioned " pumpkin on a stick" was on the ballot. I'd vote for it. I just wish it was over.

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