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11-10-2010, 03:02 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Two physician friends of mine were married to each other. He (Dr. XY) was an anesthesiologist, she (Dr. XX) was a family doc. She went to a conference and he came along as the accompanying spouse. He received a large package of material addressed to "Mrs. XX".
He enjoyed the sewing classes! 
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11-10-2010, 03:50 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Back when online forums were new, I received several PMs from people purporting to be women, who wanted me to be aware that they had been surprised to learn I was a woman (I'd mentioned my sex in a post). All along, they had assumed I was a man. Of course I asked why. The answers were all on the order of "You seemed so well-informed and sure of yourself."
Apparently, real women were expected to precede every statement with 'I know this may sound stupid, but....'
It's weird to look back and consider the ways in which women have been socialized.
Amethyst (whose sex, not gender, is female).
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11-10-2010, 04:30 PM
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#83
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
Back when online forums were new, I received several PMs from people purporting to be women, who wanted me to be aware that they had been surprised to learn I was a woman (I'd mentioned my sex in a post).
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When you mention sex in a post you're setting yourself up for all sorts of PMs... 
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11-10-2010, 04:38 PM
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Gone but not forgotten
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
Back when online forums were new, I received several PMs from people purporting to be women, who wanted me to be aware that they had been surprised to learn I was a woman (I'd mentioned my sex in a post). All along, they had assumed I was a man. Of course I asked why. The answers were all on the order of "You seemed so well-informed and sure of yourself."
Apparently, real women were expected to precede every statement with 'I know this may sound stupid, but....'
It's weird to look back and consider the ways in which women have been socialized.
Amethyst (whose sex, not gender, is female).
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So true.
I've been online since mammoths roamed the web.
My day job was programming since '82.
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11-10-2010, 04:52 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Yeah, so what about you, bragging in your .sig line about how HARD your numbers is.... 
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'There is only one success – to be able to spend your life in your own way.’ Christopher Morley.
Even a blind clock finds an acorn twice a day.
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11-10-2010, 04:58 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Check your PMs... 
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11-10-2010, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Khan
I rather like people not being able to discern my gender online. Lack of any identifiers excepted what is posted tends to level the field.
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That's too bad.
I usually pay more attention to posts from women.
Just because...
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11-10-2010, 07:47 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
Amethyst (whose sex, not gender, is female).
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This is totally foreign to me, a girl (wait, can I use that instead of woman or female?), so I had to look it up.
In case there are other neanderthals among us that, like me, had no idea these two terms require differentiation, here are some official words from the World Health Organization:
What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"?
Sometimes it is hard to understand exactly what is meant by the term "gender", and how it differs from the closely related term "sex".
"Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women.
"Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.
To put it another way:
"Male" and "female" are sex categories, while "masculine" and "feminine" are gender categories.
Source: WHO | What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"?
Dang, I learn something new every day around here! 
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11-10-2010, 08:15 PM
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Gone but not forgotten
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Originally Posted by Sarah in SC
This is totally foreign to me, a girl (wait, can I use that instead of woman or female?), so I had to look it up.
In case there are other neanderthals among us that, like me, had no idea these two terms require differentiation, here are some official words from the World Health Organization:
What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"?
Sometimes it is hard to understand exactly what is meant by the term "gender", and how it differs from the closely related term "sex".
"Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women.
"Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.
To put it another way:
"Male" and "female" are sex categories, while "masculine" and "feminine" are gender categories.
Source: WHO | What do we mean by "sex" and "gender"?
Dang, I learn something new every day around here!
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And one can pay a high price for not conforming.
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11-11-2010, 12:21 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Originally Posted by W2R
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Originally Posted by kyounge1956
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Originally Posted by W2R
"Why do people online think I'm a guy?"
I guess they aren't paying attention? I have always thought of you as a woman, if that makes you feel any better. Absolutely, unequivocably female, an outspoken woman with strong and interesting opinions.
In contrast, I thought that both CuppaJoe and Khan were men, at first, when really they are women as well. It is sometimes difficult to tell, online, especially when a woman is confident and secure in her own identity and also primarily discusses topics other than lingerie, cooking, pets, and bacon, for example.
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No, I really meant it. Or at least, I am much more outspoken and forceful when writing on the forum than I am verbally in person.
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11-11-2010, 01:46 AM
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When online poker was new and still legal, and I still played it, my screenname was HeatherHi, I expected to be played differently (Men try to bluff woman more and also assume they play more conservatively) and wasn't disappointed. But eventhough you could check my real gender easily enough, between living in Hawaii and being a girl that played poker, I got lots of proposals. Once I had to invite a Marine husband to stop the guy on his way to Hawaii that wanted to meet me...
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11-11-2010, 08:08 AM
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Come on now clifp. I find it hard to think a guy would do that if you did not post a glamour shot of "yourself" as enticement. And how would the guy find where you lived?
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11-11-2010, 08:31 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Must not comment........................................... .................................................. .................................................. .........
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This Thread is USELESS without pics.........:)
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11-11-2010, 11:54 AM
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I think this "PM" falls under the category of "public domain" and should be shared openly. For the good of the group, that is.
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11-11-2010, 12:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clifp
When online poker was new and still legal, and I still played it, my screenname was HeatherHi, I expected to be played differently (Men try to bluff woman more and also assume they play more conservatively) and wasn't disappointed. But eventhough you could check my real gender easily enough, between living in Hawaii and being a girl that played poker, I got lots of proposals.
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Well, damn, now I want my $35,000 back, and when are you going to return the ring I sent you?!?
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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa
I think this "PM" falls under the category of "public domain" and should be shared openly. For the good of the group, that is.
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This is about the only downside of turning in a moderator's badge...
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11-11-2010, 01:15 PM
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Not sure what you mean Nords, but the moderators on this site can't see any PM's other than their own.
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11-11-2010, 01:19 PM
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This is about the only downside of turning in a moderator's badge...
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If the moderator's badge let us read other people's PMs (of course no one has access to them other than the sender and the recipient ), Andy would have to pay us a whole lot more!!!
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11-11-2010, 01:25 PM
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If the moderator's badge let us read other people's PMs (of course no one has access to them other than the sender and the recipient ), Andy would have to pay us a whole lot more!!! |
Or a whole lot less, as your psychic income would take a huge boost.
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11-11-2010, 06:04 PM
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If the moderator's badge let us read other people's PMs (of course no one has access to them other than the sender and the recipient ), Andy would have to pay us a whole lot more!!! |
Oh, sure, I get it remember now, that's true, you're absolutely right, I stand corrected!
You've probably also found all of BMJ's back-door logins and OAP's other user accounts...
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11-11-2010, 06:24 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Well, I have worked with computers for 37 years, and there is/are somebody/somebodies associated with these forums that can read PM's. Somebody has to debug things when they break.
Hopefully these somebodies are ethical.
Edit:
To some people computers and networks are magical black boxes. To the rest of us they are just electronic devices and infrastructure that behave in a very predictable way. For just about every computer, server, program, or network element, there are people who, with the proper tools and access, can see *ANY* data in a system. This is a requirement of making the system function properly and diagnosing and fixing problems.
I was trying to say that in this post:
http://www.early-retirement.org/foru...tml#post990457
If there is a process that can receive your PM and forward it to the intended recipient, there is a process by which an individual with access can view it.
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