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Old 07-31-2017, 06:11 PM   #1
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Why would a bot want to know?

What was your earliest memory of life?:


Why would a bot's owner/creator want to gather this information?

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What was your earliest memory of life?

Does anybody here have any idea (a guess would suffice) why someone would create a bot to ask a question about an earliest memory?
They were hoping I would tell them my earliest thought of how I would save social security. But I didn't bite.
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With all this talk about AI software that can drive a car and soon will threaten humanity, don't you think that a piece of software has reached self-awareness and consciousness to think of asking the question, any existential question, all by itself?

That bot has been blocked out, so unfortunately cannot share what it is thinking, but most likely has been pondering the existence of God too.

Most likely, being as smart and fast as a computer is, it probably has already reached the answer: 42.
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Maybe we're all bots.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:40 PM   #5
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Good timing as airing on CBS in about an hour from now, there's a program about in Japan where they want to have human bots co-exist with people. Kinda like real life "Westworld".

IMO, as long as we can power off the bots, nothing to fear. When the day comes where bots get their "life" from air and can build themselves, look out .

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Maybe we're all bots.
This begs the next question: not all bots are equal, and how does one tell?

Some are superior, and can detect and block out the inferior ones. Not all bots are equal. Never were, never will.

I wonder what the forum administrator used to detect this low life. He will not share the info though, because that would help more 2nd class bots evade the test.
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What was your earliest memory of life?:


Why would a bot's owner/creator want to gather this information?

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Looking for real memories to make the bot more human for posting on forums?? They now know that humans sometimes have ear hair too!
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With all this talk about AI software that can drive a car and soon will threaten humanity, don't you think that a piece of software has reached self-awareness and consciousness to think of asking the question, any existential question, all by itself?

That bot has been blocked out, so unfortunately cannot share what it is thinking, but most likely has been pondering the existence of God too.

Most likely, being as smart and fast as a computer is, it probably has already reached the answer: 42.

If I am not mistaken it took many millions of years for it to get that answer..... maybe someone with better memory can tell us...
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Imagine if you could read but you didn't know the definition of the words. Having to look each up, and the words associated with the word.....(there was a question about recursive the other week), takes a long time. You need to build a dictionary of sorts, to build the knowledge. Logically you would ask silly questions while learning to build the knowledge base.
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What was your earliest memory of life?:

Why would a bot's owner/creator want to gather this information?

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edited again: same reason as initial edit.
My earlier post still stands. It may be the bot's question, and not the bot owner/creator's. From what I read on the Web about how advanced AI is nowadays, that's possible, no?

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Looking for real memories to make the bot more human for posting on forums?? They now know that humans sometimes have ear hair too!
Oh, humans can be hairier than that. When I was in Musée d'Orsay, stumbled across the controversial painting titled "Origine du Monde" (Origin of the World). Forgot I read about it before. I took a shot of many famous paintings, particularly those from the Impressionism movement, but not that one.
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Imagine if you could read but you didn't know the definition of the words. Having to look each up, and the words associated with the word.....(there was a question about recursive the other week), takes a long time.
I resemble this remark.
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Imagine if you could read but you didn't know the definition of the words. Having to look each up, and the words associated with the word.....(there was a question about recursive the other week), takes a long time. You need to build a dictionary of sorts, to build the knowledge. Logically you would ask silly questions while learning to build the knowledge base.
All dictionaries have are circular definitions anyway.

Can I toss you a Russian dictionary and expect you to learn to speak the language?
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Fifty years ago Robert A. Heinlein's book The Moon is a Harsh Mistress was published, and Mike, the self aware computer, was a central character......Mike's protégés have likely come along way since then....(what's 50 in computer years BTW?)
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To answer the original question, I suspect it was a learning exercise for the AI, or for its designers. One way a bot can learn how humans interact, as well as how to interact with humans, is to observe message exchanges in social media. This board, being among the more civil ones online, may be a reasonable place from which to learn some basic manners.
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Lest I got misunderstood, I was being sarcastic.

I don't think anyone has built an AI machine that is that smart, all the hype in public statements notwithstanding, let alone some bots that try to break into this forum.
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All dictionaries have are circular definitions anyway.

Can I toss you a Russian dictionary and expect you to learn to speak the language?
How did I learn English?

Joking aside I've used technical documentation that was organized in that fashion. It worked well, but the lexicon was limited.

Now could I take any language dictionary and teach myself the language? Sure. Would you understand me? Haha.
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Lest I got misunderstood, I was being sarcastic.

I don't think anyone has built an AI machine that is that smart, all the hype in public statements notwithstanding, let alone some bots that try to break into this forum.
You are sure of that uh?
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Imagine if you could read but you didn't know the definition of the words. Having to look each up, and the words associated with the word.....(there was a question about recursive the other week), takes a long time. You need to build a dictionary of sorts, to build the knowledge. Logically you would ask silly questions while learning to build the knowledge base.
That is how I learned English. It is even more complicated.

As each word I looked up, had words in the explanation that had to be looked up, ad infinitum. Talk about going off an a tangent or three. By the time I looked up all the words of all the explanations, I forgot the the original word, unless I underlined it for reference.

BTW I do believe I am not a robot.
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That is how I learned English. It is even more complicated.

As each word I looked up, had words in the explanation that had to be looked up, ad infinitum. Talk about going off an a tangent or three. By the time I looked up all the words of all the explanations, I forgot the the original word, unless I underlined it for reference.

BTW I do believe I am not a robot.
Awesome and and congratulations. That's an amazing task!

I understand the methodology as I had to use it for the technical documentation. One thing they suggested was having postits number 1-25 so you could find your way back up the chain. A full language would be intimidating at the very least.
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